Can I report junglers who do not come when the enemy without escapes sits under my tower?

dEAdbUs·Jun 8, 2015·1 votes·887 views

Because this is just stupid. Main rule in this teamplay game: "play like there is no teammates."

Updt: guys if we follow logic of your answers, then jungler should just sit in the jungle and he doesn't need to gank anybody at all. Really, 0 answers like: "this is bad jungler! what an opportunity to gank enemy who is overexteding without escapes! jungler can get easy assists and feed his teammate - this must be easy game gg!" Wtf wrong with you people?

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CONSUME YOUR ELOJun 8, 20155 votes

Nope.

"Refusing to communicate" doesn't really apply to that, it's typically for champion select, or if one person is repeatedly refusing to contribute to the team. Which does not mean "didn't do what I say" or if they did "bad".

dEAdbUsJun 8, 20151 votes

So what I can do with jungler who literally losing my lane and my game?

XigXagJun 8, 20156 votes

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So what I can do with jungler who literally losing my lane and my game?

You're losing your lane. You're letting your enemy laner sit under your tower.

dEAdbUsJun 8, 20151 votes

There is can be counterpick. I'm counterpicked, but can easy kill my enemy who has no escapes. And Lol is a teamplay game ("teamwork is essential" like Riot love to say), correct?

dEAdbUsJun 8, 20151 votes

guys if we follow logic of your answers, then jungler should just sit in the jungle and he doesn't need to gank anybody at all. Really, 0 answers like: "this is bad jungler! what an opportunity to gank enemy who is overexteding without escapes! jungler can get easy assists and feed his teammate - this must be easy game gg!" Wtf wrong with you people?

CONSUME YOUR ELOJun 8, 20156 votes

This has got to be a troll, right?

It's not the junglers fault to win your lane, or win the game on his own.

You win / lose your lane yourself. It doesn't matter if their jungler comes, the lane is up to you. Buy some wards to counter that, and play safer against your lane opponent. If I get killed by their jungler and mine isn't there, or if I get myself killed to the lane opponent, it's not my junglers fault at all. All my own mistakes.

The jungler farming for levels / placing wards / doing dragons / giving laners buffs / counter ganking / counter jungling and much more is all fine. He doesn't need to just do everything for you.

I play Nunu jungle a fair bit, I spend more time counter jungling and placing wards than much else. Sometimes I'll gank lanes, but it's not that often. Usually it makes their jungler get behind and pulls laners away to help him. But I should be reported for doing that, right?

I mean, sure they can help your lane, but don't expect them to baby you the entire time early on just so you can do okay in your lane.

dEAdbUsJun 8, 20151 votes

Sometimes I'll gank lanes, but it's not that often. Usually it makes their jungler get behind

Mate are you serious? Ganking makes jungler behind? Maybe better play another lane if you're going to jung and don't want to gank?

CONSUME YOUR ELOJun 8, 20153 votes

Just lied to me buddy. I never said that.

I said counter-jungling the enemy jungler makes them behind, and pulls laners away.. it does.

Even in the part of my sentence you quoted to attempt to make it look different, it still doesn't work.

Sometimes I'll gank lanes, but it's not that often. Usually it makes their jungler get behind

Very nice to see you didn't quote the sentence right before it. Full quote:

I play Nunu jungle a fair bit, I spend more time counter jungling and placing wards than much else. Sometimes I'll gank lanes, but it's not that often. Usually it makes their jungler get behind and pulls laners away to help him.

dEAdbUsJun 8, 20151 votes

Mb I'm wrong but I don't see Nunu jungle in ranked on your account. I'm starting to think that you're theorizing and not speaking about practice experience. I'm saying it because in this state of game its pretty difficult to counterjung,

CONSUME YOUR ELOJun 8, 20151 votes

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Mb I'm wrong but I don't see Nunu jungle in ranked on your account.

Take ranked out of the picture and look, I literally just played a Nunu jungle game 10 minutes ago. I actually have a back-to-back win streak with Nunu for 6 games recently.

I don't play ranked. I played my placements for the first time, got Gold V and barely played it since.

Buy some wards and counter jungling becomes very easy with Nunu. Q + Smite is unbeatable.

dEAdbUsJun 8, 20151 votes

No offense, but this topic is about rankeds game only. Normal is another world.

CONSUME YOUR ELOJun 8, 20151 votes

I dunno man, normal games actually seem like they're at a higher level than ranked ones, at least from my experience in Gold V.

dEAdbUsJun 8, 20151 votes

CONSUME YOUR ELOJun 8, 20153 votes

Oh look, I didn't say that. How interesting. Quote:

The jungler farming for levels / placing wards / doing dragons / giving laners buffs / counter ganking / counter jungling and much more is all fine. He doesn't need to just do everything for you.

There's nothing wrong with us, aha, we just don't expect people to win our lane for us.

Just realized you copy and pasted that same paragraph around this whole thread to people. Nice.

dEAdbUsJun 8, 20151 votes

Jungler farming for levels? Good jungler clears his jungle and going to lanes. Placing wards? Really? Thats why I'm #2 (after support) on amount of wards in every game. You can't do drake every minute. Same about blue buff, I doubt that you give your second red buff to someone.

I count believe in your words if I've never played jungle by myself, but I've played. This is first thing that jungler have to look for - if any enemy overextending so jungler will be able to gank him.

CONSUME YOUR ELOJun 8, 20152 votes

Counter jungling takes up most of the time.

PisdovJun 8, 20156 votes

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So what I can do with jungler who literally losing my lane and my game?

how does a jungler lose ur lane, exactly?

dEAdbUsJun 8, 20151 votes

Enemy zone me. Jungler can gank, give me a kill and I'll be able to farm.

Onimus TerlainJun 8, 20152 votes

I'm a jungle main, so I'm going to give you my perspective on this comment right here.

Junglers very rarely lose your lane for you.

Here’s an example of a jungler losing one of his teammate’s lanes.

You, as the mid laner, go back to base to shop. Jungler comes into your lane and dies 1v1 to your opponent, by diving their tower. Twice.

That could, arguably, be the jungler losing your lane to your opponent. Giving away kills without ganking.

Anything other than something like that, it is your fault.

You say your enemy laner is sitting under your tower.

How did he get there? Why can’t you get him out of there? Did you feed him so hard that he is now so much stronger that you can’t even get within ability range to him? If so, that’s your fault.

Were you ganked so many times that you are underleveled and he has several kills on you? Why didn’t you ward? Why didn’t you have map awareness? Why didn’t you track your enemy’s level to see when his ultimate became available. Why didn’t you play more conservatively. That is also your fault.

Your lane, your responsibility. The jungle’s primary responsibilities are to control objectives, control and distribute buffs, maintain vision and eliminate enemy vision when possible, snowball winning lanes and attempt to salvage losing lanes. It is never their job to win your lane for you. And if you rely on him to win your lane for you, you are ultimately guaranteed to fail.

dEAdbUsJun 8, 20151 votes

There is many matchups when one champion stronger than another only in early game, but later weaker one becomes much stronger. To snowball and become stronger he needs help from his team (jungler mostly).

We're probably playing different games. I obviously know that different champions have different powerspikes and team must utilize that and play around that. But some junglers think there is no powerspikes and any champion can win any another champion in any part of game.

dEAdbUsJun 8, 20151 votes

ArveanorJun 8, 20153 votes

Can I report people who don't understand jungling?

GundayMondayJun 8, 20151 votes

Yeah, it's called "unskilled".

Wînter FoxJun 8, 20153 votes

I'm sorry, it must have slipped my mind the entire game revolves around you and your lane. Is that mean old enemy pushing you to your tower? Let me drop all my gold earning, counter jungling, drag control, and other lanes assistance so I can babysit you constantly and put us both behind because he knows how to ward and control his lane.

dEAdbUsJun 8, 20151 votes

I'm sorry but, do enemies push other lanes too in your game?

Will counterjunging give you kill with more probability than lane gank where you'll be 2v1 not 1v1?

I didn't write about babysit, I wrote about GANK, because enemy is VULNERABLE, OVEREXTENDING and WITHOUT ESCAPES. It's like christmas gift - just come and take it.

CONSUME YOUR ELOJun 8, 20151 votes

{quoted} It's like christmas gift - just come and take it.

Yeah, and it doesn't matter if it's not taken. It's better to, but it doesn't matter.

Wînter FoxJun 8, 20151 votes

You're not even considering the situation the Jungler is in. What if he's at base? What if he is at 40% HP just farming before he goes back? What if he just ganked and has 0 mana and no ult? You're only concerned with your lane. And if the jungler isn't always ready to gank, at your beck and call you want to report him.

Onimus TerlainJun 8, 20151 votes

You can, but it won't do any good.

OrbvJun 8, 20151 votes

For your particular game, I can understand your frustration, it was Malzahar. But it may have been obvious that Malz warded, or that another lane looked like it needed more help. Clearly it was bad shot calling on the Jungler's end. Hopefully you weren't rude about it saying "GANK MID", "Can you gank?", "What are you doing, gank, Malz has no escapes". That results in vengeful lack of ganks.

dEAdbUsJun 8, 20151 votes

Malz was ganked many times btw. That game my jungler was ok.