Riot, pls bring back patch 5.22 Kog'Maw

Yuumi or Lose·Feb 19, 2016·8 votes·1,247 views

After the hotfix 11/17 when he was actually balanced and had to survive until late game to fulfill the hypercarry role that can't achieve now.

Kog is the definition of lategame and as it stands, his early-mid game is a monster but his late game is so lackluster and weak. Kog before the rework has a way better late game than the Kog now. What you did, taking away his AD ratio on his W and then adding a flat 2%, put Kog in the opposite end and making him worse.

For the love of God please revert. :(

22 Comments

RebonackFeb 19, 20163 votes

Plus.

Fucking.

One.

Kog was fine after the hotfix buff. Riot could have balanced him by tweaking his base HP and literally nothing else.

Yuumi or LoseFeb 19, 20162 votes

My fellow Kog brethren. I see you posting as well. Someday we will get the Kog we deserve.

Best Kog NAFeb 20, 20161 votes

Am I the only one who likes the new Kog?

Yuumi or LoseFeb 20, 20161 votes

I like the kog rework, it's just the state that he's in isn't the state he needs to be in.

RebonackFeb 20, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Best Kog NA,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RxAJ1KMR,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2016-02-20T01:50:56.305+0000)

Am I the only one who likes the new Kog?

I think quite a few people like it.

I mostly just take issue with Riot deciding to make Kog an early/mid game champion. He was most interesting when his W had the AD ratio. If he's supposed to be a hyper-carry, he needs quite a bit less early game power and quite a bit more late.

Utility VeigarFeb 19, 20162 votes

Yes por favor. I want to build other items instead of the same shit over and over.

RebonackFeb 19, 20162 votes

I still can't figure out why Riot doesn't just revert back to 5.22 and try buffing Kog in a different direction.

It's already painfully clear that the route they have taken isn't working if Kog is supposed to be a hyper-scaler.

ItsCalledALanceFeb 19, 20162 votes

Yes plox rito! bring back the old Kog that WAS THE EXACT SAME AS EVERY OTHER FUCKING BORING ASS ADC!!

0.o cuz thats so exciting, same build path as every other adc....

AlsekFeb 19, 20161 votes

How about reverting him back to 5.10? xD

Yuumi or LoseFeb 19, 20162 votes

I kinda don't mind.

mogonkFeb 19, 20161 votes

You realize Kog is widely considered to be insanely OP right now, right?

....right?

RebonackFeb 19, 20161 votes

{quoted}

You realize Kog is widely considered to be insanely OP right now, right?

....right?

A lot of people were attached to Kog's old kite and poke playstyle with Trinity.

The remake to Kog's W changed the way you play him pretty radically.

Yuumi or LoseFeb 20, 20161 votes

I know he is OP. The problem is that he is OP in the wrong direction. He is suppose to be weak early and a monster late game. The kog we have now is a monster early and mid game. Becausr kogmaw can now get a huge advantage lead, people are convinced he is good late game when in reality, he is not.

This is what the post is for. To revert the changes to when he was actually balanced.

mogonkFeb 20, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Junkyard TrundIe,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RxAJ1KMR,comment-id=00050001,timestamp=2016-02-20T00:08:24.075+0000) people are convinced he is good late game when in reality, he is not.

oh okay

Kogmaw has a super good late game - Pants are Dragon, Challenger player (directly referring to patch 6.3)

Sir YamazukiFeb 20, 20161 votes

{quoted}

oh okay

Kogmaw has a super good late game - Pants are Dragon, Challenger player (directly referring to patch 6.3)

That's an opinion, statistically he is more likely to win with-in 25 minutes.

RebonackFeb 20, 20161 votes

{quoted}

oh okay

Kogmaw has a super good late game - Pants are Dragon, Challenger player (directly referring to patch 6.3)

His late game is good compared to Lucean or Corki.

His late game it quite a bit weaker than Twitch or Vayne's. But he makes up for it by being absolutely silly early and mid game.

God of BagelsFeb 20, 20161 votes

Completely disagree. Kogmaw still sucks early game. He is the best late game ADC as long as he has some form of protection. He can absolutely shit on Vayne/Twitch.

Big LincolnFeb 19, 20161 votes

i didn't really main him enthusiastically but i was a fan of pre-rework kog'maw and played him occasionally, usually AP mid (even have his battlecast skin because I've had a few phases where I played a lot of him)

i just don't even like the rework; there's nothing that fun about pressing W and then standing still

AwesomeChadFeb 20, 20161 votes

I miss the old kog'maw. The new kog'maw feels garbage to build pure AD on because of the dmg reduction from his w so the most viable build on him is none other than the on-hit build which coincidentally has the toxic item item 3124 .

Best Kog NAFeb 20, 20161 votes

While Riot took away alot of Kog's potential, they didn't kill him. Kog'Maw still is viable late game. If you build him right he can still become the hyper-carry that he truly is. I like Riot's change to Kog, I think they did a good job.

God of BagelsFeb 20, 20161 votes

Bring back AP Kog please. I use to main AP Kog before they made his mana cost stupid as fuck. AP Kog mid is infinitely more fun than ADC Kog.