What should I be doing as talon in the late game.

d4rkshock··2 votes·7,572 views

I like playing talon. I've played him since the beginning of s6 when everyone was picking assasins and bust mages. This was also when brand was broken af. I used to oneshot the world and now, it seems as if he has even more burst and a better way game. I seem to have no issues what so ever getting first blood. The problem seems to be if the game goes late, you join Al-Qaeda or isis and become a suicide bomber since you fall off pretty damn hard late. It's probably worse than Pantheon. The problem with getting your lanes fed is you'll kill them before anyone can react. I've seen my ult take an ad carry from max health to 10 hp. That's not even inincluding the blades converging back to me. That just the initial button push. That game I got 35 kills ad we still lost because it went late and we had tristana who is kind of bad atm even though she's supposed to be a hypercarry. Jinx just stalled out and got fed. And Veigar at the same time was catching up but could get much cs. So if I fail to end the game, what should I be doing late. At least with Pantheon, you can be somewhat of an initiator with your ult and w but you still die unless you build bruiser which I do to be on the safe side. Full ad panth is a bit greedy. But what about talon. He can't do that since he's an assassin and that's all he is. So what do you do late gameas talon.

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Shaydrox3 votes

Talon main since around s2 here.

First thing is splitpushing. W clears waves really well, and that helps the push. When you're at a tower, hit the tower and immediately meleeQ a minion next to it, this allows you to hit the tower again as your meleeQ refreshes your AA. Place a ward around the area where you expect enemies to come from, and plan an escape route for yourself. When they send 1 person, look to kill that guy if he makes a mistake. If they send half a team you run and hope your team does something with the time they've been given.

Second thing is teamfighting. If it does come down to it, make sure you're not actually with your team when it starts. The enemy will forget about you, or realise too late that they're missing you, and you can make a flank happen. You're not like old Talon, you cannot Ghostblade at someone and hope to get within E range in time, you have to plan your approach carefully. It takes quite some games, but once you get the hang of it he's quite good and fun. You can also kill 2 people if you land your AoE on both and you use that passive proc.

Those are really your only two options. Talon can backdoor pretty well btw, if you see and opportunity it might be a decent idea (do not try this everytime as it won't work very often). Some games are just not meant to be won, especially as an assassin lategame some games are simply unwinnable.

ChaddyFantome2 votes

Talon main here.

You cry

All you can really do is try to use your W -Q combo to pick away at the front lien as they try to chase down your fellow carries, or hope and pray the enemy adc facechecks a bush you happen to be in. outside of that, I guess all you can really do is split push and use your E for escaping?

Late game sucks hard as Talon atm, especially in this current 40 minute powershft meta, where once the clock hits 30, the team that was winning just gets weaker until they lose.

I wish i had a better answer for you but I'm kind of in the same bot.

By late game, most ADCs can literally kill you before you even get your full rotation off or even if you do manage, they just lifesteal through your burst and 3 shot u.

Luner Hunter1 votes

lol, i never have that issue aslong as the game isnt a landslide loss. what build are you guys using? item 3071 <-- start vs ad but always get item 3156 <-- start vs ap but always get item 3074 <-- always get but specially when i'm wanted to splitpush item 3142 <-- i rarely ever get this and i NEVER first item this item 3047 item 3111 <-- depending on the team comp but i never get mobi/lucid boots. the last two items are pretty much dependant if you wanna blow shit up faster or have more survivability. item 3814 item 3742 item 3068 item 3065 or on the rare occasion i get item 3147 but it's basically a win more item...

ChaddyFantome1 votes

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lol, i never have that issue aslong as the game isnt a landslide loss. what build are you guys using? item 3071 <-- start vs ad but always get item 3156 <-- start vs ap but always get item 3074 <-- always get but specially when i'm wanted to splitpush item 3142 <-- i rarely ever get this and i NEVER first item this item 3047 item 3111 <-- depending on the team comp but i never get mobi/lucid boots. the last two items are pretty much dependant if you wanna blow shit up faster or have more survivability. item 3814 item 3742 item 3068 item 3065 or on the rare occasion i get item 3147 but it's basically a win more item...

My build typiclaly looks like this item 3071 item 3009 /item 3111 item 3142 item 3147 item 3139 item 3156 /item 3742/item 3812/ item 3026

with boots depending on the matchup and last item depending on whats happening.

The Deckowner1 votes

Nothing.

All you can do is suicide for enemy carry and prey to god you attract enough attention that your adc has enough time to do damage. Or you split push with your e and again attract the enemy attention so maybe your team can get an advantage for it.

Erdo Master1 votes

In a teamfight you should be focusing the squishy targets such as the adc mid laner you can use youmus q w ignite then e to escape or if you have someone in your team with stun like veigar maokai or if you have a shen you can gom all in with q w ult and mybe another q and w if you need and you will get a triple or atleast double kill if you have a decent build. If they arent teamfighting you must always try to kill them before they get together. if there team hasn got that many stuns or your confident you can dodge the them with your e or flash you can even go steal baron and get a tripple kill then if anyone is remaining e to safety. You do a lot of dmg so use it but dont be the first to engage in a teamfight because you will get killed wait for your tank to start the fight and always focus adc and mid laner and try to kill them as fast as posible after that it should be easy for your team to folow up. Also use your e to dodje skillshots i found this very useful.

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