I feel like mages don't do even nearly enough damage to tanks.

YoungFarmer·Apr 28, 2016·2 votes·704 views

Even with , and a little magic pen in my runes I find my self unable to do much damage to a full built tank as a full built mage. why can mages not have an ap . The one problem I did find with lord dominics regard is that, building or would often be making me take 10%- 15% extra damage from AD champs just because I tried building HP. I know mages are not supposed to just obliterate tanks but honestly I feel like even when full comboing a tank I can barely even scratch his HP.

13 Comments

ModWulf HelhammerApr 28, 20166 votes

I feel like mages aren't supposed to be taking down tanks.

Oh wait, that's how it's supposed to be

RalanrApr 28, 20162 votes

People really don't get this.

NekusenApr 28, 20162 votes

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I feel like mages aren't supposed to be taking down tanks.

Oh wait, that's how it's supposed to be

Currently, it seems mages aren't supposed to take down tanks... adcs, assassins, bruisers, no one.

ProfDrDeathApr 28, 20161 votes

In general, valid statement.

However, you could refine it a bit more towards: Burst mages are not supposed to be taking down tanks. Because, to take down tanks, you need sustained damage.

So sustained damage mages are ok if they are able to take down tanks in a certain timeframe - but not outright burst them. Ryze Cassiopeia Karthus Azir Zyra

YoungFarmerApr 28, 20161 votes

{quoted}

I feel like mages aren't supposed to be taking down tanks.

Oh wait, that's how it's supposed to be

I know the problem with that is it makes it more difficult to solo carry a team as a mage, because a fed tanks going to be a problem. The problems I have is ADCs can fuck up almost anything, Tanks can fuck up almost anything, and then there is you the burst mage, who can fuck up any squishy who doesn't buy item 3053 or item 3156

Guy Fox TeemoApr 28, 20163 votes

Ok ummm, mages aren't suppose to be doing a lot of damage to tanks?

Tanks = Champions who can takes lots of bursts. Mages= Champions who do lots of bursts

Should be a good enough explanation

TehNACHOApr 28, 20162 votes

Okay first of all, Sorc Shoes would get countered by Tanks. You're building yourself into a whole relying on it to be a Tank Buster.

Second of all, Mages are not normally supposed to kill Tanks. Mages are traditionally best at their big AOE effects blasting entire teams at once, or relatively solid Burst Damage threatening squishies. If a Mage were to counter Tanks, that Mage either has notably given up something in their kit (Cass for example is rather single target focused for a Mage), or would be entirely broken as it would essentially be a potential threat to everything

Demon King MaouApr 28, 20161 votes

play or = fk your tanks

PhantomGGApr 28, 20161 votes

I feel the big problem is mage magic pen items are way to expensive, all of you complain about zhonyas? zhonyas mkes sense, it has a god tier active.

Void staff and Liandry ? Those items cost literally a entire arm. Hell even pen boots are expensive

Kai GuyApr 28, 20161 votes

Malzahar Have pretty decent damage to tanks. I looked into match history and seems like you favor longer range poke Mages Lux Velkoz Syndra Viktor . Once folks got high HP and MR yea your just kinda tickling them, should still be able to drop a adc fairly fast thou.

CoolKnightSTApr 28, 20161 votes

I don't think that would be really the issue. And honnestly as far the magic penetration itemation goes it doesn't feel like they where focussing a lot on this during the mage rework:

I think they are going to focus it more towards assasins. Since mages already can have access from mpen from . I think that's the reason why they didn't touch it yet.
feels like an overal situational item. I honnestly think they have their reason for not changing it to bonus penetration.
this item was already in a decent state before the mage changes and I believe that's the reason why they remained it untouch.

I still find it strange why they didn't include a item 3136 in the mage rework tho. It's still their option to go when the enemy team ignores magic resistance. It's almost like they try to force the item 3020 option on you now.