Jungle is still extremely toxic and way too influential for YEARS.

KirbyCake·Oct 13, 2018·3 votes·1,043 views

This role is more cancerous than all the horribly toxic champion designs combined. This role basically has the influence of 3 supports.

Ever since riot made clearing the entire jungle and ganking a thing, better jungler will usually win the game barring 3 inting lanes. If your jungler gets solo killed it honestly feels like playing a 4 v 7 because now ganking is more risky since 2 v 2 is auto lose while their jungler can just run all over your team.

Influence is not related to how strong a role is. It doesn't matter that junglers are a level below laners when they make or break lanes easily. In dawngate junglers are 2 levels above laners and they still aren't anywhere near as influential as in league.

9 Comments

boricCentaur1Oct 13, 20182 votes

the jg needs to be slower and harder to clear and when you do a gank if you don't get a kill it should hurt you for failing it and if you get a kill then you should be even with the other jg or up a small bit since this will force jgs to gank less but it still rewards jgs for ganking.

Li Fu ChenOct 13, 20181 votes

Well, your clear depends heavily on your character, and if the enemy laner is even decent at farming, a failed gank will put you behind. And what is this about ganking? If we say a lane is about equal in terms of the laners' power, the gank should reward you for playing it well. Cmon dude, inform yourself.

boricCentaur1Oct 13, 20181 votes

ok the reason you gank is not for a kill or gold its for the pressure you get from it that's the reward, the reward for ganking should never be getting ahead for the other jg since that's what is happening now and its causing problems in the game now and also what game have you been playing since the way the jg works right now means you can just sit waiting around a lane to gank for a long time and not get hurt by it 90% of jgs do not care about there clears since they all do it fast and you don't lose a lot of health too like why do you think one of the problems top lanes talk about is getting camped by jg and it really hard just to power farm since you just ran out of camps and that should tell you there is too much room to gank right now.

Li Fu ChenOct 13, 20181 votes

So, as a silver tier jungler my opinion might not be as valid, but here i come. If bot feeds 6 kills to the enemy Vayne pre six while I'm Rengar , I can't do much. And yeah, we do have the influence of 3 supports, but as previously stated, if even a single lane feeds, we're screwed, because that lane is most likely going to feed continuously, and if 2 of them are hard feeding, we' re definitely screwed. Some champs are toxic, but have you seen a single ADC? And how will we have influence if the enemy laner is uber fed? Just. No.

Right Nutt OnlyOct 13, 20181 votes

this post baffles me, what do you think the jg is there for? to just look pretty and take obj's? of course they are going to have a huge impact but so does every role, all about how you play them. Not sure what you want Riot to do, make the jgler useless? If that is the case should mid laners not be allowed to roam or the support not be allowed to roam to gank?

Hayaishi2Oct 13, 20181 votes

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this post baffles me, what do you think the jg is there for? to just look pretty and take obj's? of course they are going to have a huge impact but so does every role, all about how you play them. Not sure what you want Riot to do, make the jgler useless? If that is the case should mid laners not be allowed to roam or the support not be allowed to roam to gank?

No other role in this game matters as much as jungle does. Every one of your lanes can be better players but if their jungler actually ganks nobody can outcarry.

Right Nutt OnlyOct 13, 20181 votes

completely not true get a decent ad or assassin mid or hyper carry mage fed and their jgler wont matter. ward and play smart every role matters

yangus BeefOct 13, 20181 votes

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this post baffles me, what do you think the jg is there for? to just look pretty and take obj's? of course they are going to have a huge impact but so does every role, all about how you play them. Not sure what you want Riot to do, make the jgler useless? If that is the case should mid laners not be allowed to roam or the support not be allowed to roam to gank?

NO ROLE HAS MORE IMPACT THAN JUNGLER. NOT EVEN CLOSE.