What if Talon's E didn't break his stealth?

Lao Fu the Tiger·12/17/2016, 4:27:53 AM·78 votes·3,133 views

Just curious what thoughts would be if his E didn't reactivate his R. This in my mind would allow for some more diverse engages as well as a better escape, which could be all he needs to be more in line.

I'm no Talon main, so feel free to ignore/tell me why this would be an awful idea.

35 Comments

IcyPepper12/17/2016, 4:49:51 AM36 votes

That would be fucking terrifying.

I approve.

Chembaron Yamada12/17/2016, 1:14:36 PM12 votes

It would be the opposite of the design philosophy for assassins in the class update. They wanted to give assassins counterplay, since getting oneshotted from stealth doesn't feel really fair. That change would remove counterplay from Talon. You could ult behind a wall (where the enemy doesn't see the blades and so isn't warned), then jump over the wall und burst the enemy. Oneshotting from stealth without warning would be reintroduced and that's not what they want.

So I think that change won't make it through.

Edge of Daybreak12/17/2016, 4:41:24 AM11 votes

It would be a nice buff and I was so surprised that it doesnt work like this already. This kind of change doesnt require any numbers buffs and helps his new playstyle out a lot.

2Behold12/17/2016, 1:27:49 PM5 votes

I mean any attack should break his invisibility because with the removal of pink wards any damage from an invis champ would be damage with 0 counterplay. They need to add more power to him maybe through stats or ability scaling so he doesnt have to depend totally on making worthwhile roams. Ps. Im a support main so feel free to ignore me [slayer-jinx-wink]

Terumie12/17/2016, 1:19:08 PM4 votes

I would appreciate it more if they let Talon use his other abilities during his parkour on walls. Also,it would be better if his E can be recast when he is mid wall so he can deny and jump back from the selected wall for juking potential. And if we are talking about walls then let him get access to the walls of the side map so he can side jump/ deny backflip on them. So many ideas that can improve Talon and yet they are not listening at all...... im disappointed. MAKE TALON FUN AGAIN.

Automated Riven12/17/2016, 5:53:47 AM3 votes

He doesn't need it. He just need .15 seconds removed from the E delay. Its really sad when you can't land it on a bootless lanes.

TheCharmingCharm12/17/2016, 11:02:52 PM2 votes

It does sound like a cool idea, but imo talon does NOT need any more ways to escape. He's already near impossible to catch in the jungle.

Jerry SeinfeId12/17/2016, 2:26:47 PM2 votes

took me 3 games to realize this...

FrostySkipper12/17/2016, 4:01:24 PM2 votes

They should also fix the bug where if u auto and immediately ult after that u won't even be in stealth

GULAG 4 U12/17/2016, 5:01:45 PM1 votes

Would be ridiculous. You wouldn't be able to ward against his ganks at all after level 6.

LatetotheRace12/17/2016, 5:12:06 PM1 votes

"as well as a better escape" Assassins really shouldn't have escapes at all, be happy with what you have.

XeroKimo12/17/2016, 5:18:45 PM1 votes

You can R mid E and it doesn't break stealth.... all be it you could only E once that way

EternalShred12/17/2016, 6:43:48 PM1 votes

That would make him like shaco , just imagine your in botlane farming , then all of sudden theres a talon ready to rake you

devdev46312/17/2016, 8:49:02 PM1 votes

I like this suggestion.

Jet Sett12/17/2016, 5:45:08 AM1 votes

With the MS nerf he got I expected he'd be able to since his most common form of engagement was to ult prior to the fight for a sneak attack. He should be rewarded for his creative use of his mobility, if he engaged on a bad fight he should be punished, if he engaged in a good one he should be rewarded, he's an assassin for goodness sake! High risk, high reward.