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Do you farm as Support?

Mavëríck·2/18/2020, 7:27:57 PM·1 votes·1,229 views

So I been running Minion Dematerializer on Galio support and using them exclusively on caster minions for faster pushes when we need it, as well as setting up easy last hits for my adc.

Now I was a Top main for a couple years, and while not exactly the same, the same basics of laning, to me at least, apply to bot lane. If I see enemy jungler Top side, ally mid with priority, and we just killed enemy bot lane, I'm going to hard push and deny them CS and try to get a turret plate.

I have been being constantly ping spammed and bitched at in chat for "Taking cs" and "Shoving the wave" when THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO.

I've been bitched at for warding deep river by dragon even though enemy team has an early solo dragon stealer.

I get flamed for roaming and pinging ally adc to stay back and play safe while I try to influence other areas.

I've been playing good and my advancement in the last couple weeks is proof, but holy shit when you get verbaled for playing well you just want to punch this community.

TLDR; Am I REALLY in the wrong here?

3 Comments

Troll Slaiyer2/18/2020, 7:34:07 PM3 votes

nothing wrong with a valuable member of the team taking some gold. supports should actually be the ones farming. adc have it too good for too long

Smiling Frog2/18/2020, 7:43:41 PM1 votes

Dont use relic on caster yikes, When you kill someone you push the wave to the tower if you support you hit minions but dont kill them when you cant hit them anymore you start recalling at base , dont go back into your lane yet, go in the river deep ward, maybe a gank mid but dont force gank mid , its clear you go back to bot. its called tempo. when you lay jungler you also push the wave to hit the tower and get plating after a sucess gank. also ward ennemy jungler camps not bush around bot , alway place control ward.

Maybe you should check corejj video on youtube really nice coaching.

but no if you saw a support going alone into a lane pushing ITS FUCKING WRONG . you dont do that

Zerdun2/18/2020, 8:40:33 PM1 votes

relic shield should have 1 proc reserved for all cannon minions and the rest should be used on melee minions (because they give the most gold).

NOTHING wrong with your overall thought processes though. You are can shove in those situations but since there is 2 people in lane in this situation pushing is way easier and can often be done without CS loss.

If you are hard pushing for chippy gold all you need to do really is toss autos at the minions to get them closer to 'shoot to death' range. That situation you listed is in fact a good time on when to shove because of map state. The only time you use your spells for wave manipulation should be when you can guarantee they wont get the minions killed or you are wave clearing when nobody else can. Being a support means you set up everybody else and praying to get the scraps left behind.

When your getting bitched at for warding/leaving your carry are you leaving them in a potential 2/3v1? If so that is generally a bad idea. Bot lane carries are like grapes, very easy to squish, and the turret means little in the current gamestate. Often times you want to go ward when you are given the chance to. You go for deep wards when you can but you gotta make sure you babysit your carry. If your carry is not interested in shoving for chips then when you get huge prio like in your previously mentioned situation setting up deep wards in the enemy jungle can be just as good as a chip. This is especially true if your jungle / mid have an advantage and can get a kill on the enemy jungle because of said wards.

TLDR : maybe? I'm not watching your games so its quite impossible to say you are or are not Your ideas for play are fine but i think if your missing anything really its the timing as to when to do what you do. Also your a support, that means following the leader and spoon feeding them. going from the solo lane mentality (do what i want when i want) to the duo (do what i want when i can) can be a bit jarring.