Aatrox thread to fix him #12093487

Mavëríck··13 votes·8,791 views
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(Highly upvoted comment I made, reposting for posterity and visibility.)

Not smart people will claim he's in a good spot since he see's "pro play" while not looking at the actual in game footage and individual performance of Aatrox in those games to see that he doesn't hit hardly anyone and just presses R and flails around while missing all of his Q's and his W chain fails to burn even one Flash as whomever he chained simply walks out of it. It's so hilarious listening to people call him "in a good spot rn".

His itemization is also abysmal and easily countered. His animations are slower and more telegraphed than Illaoi's, and his auto attacks are so slow he has massive pauses when trying to last hit that you always eat harass and can't react.

Last I checked his base health was lower than Ashe's too. So that's pretty awful given he's supposed to be this "Early Game All-In Juggernaut" that falls off hard late, as he never starts strong in the first place.

His core item is item 3071 , which we can safely say that he hardly benefits from given that he can't reliably apply the stacks since he can't stick to anyone he commits to nor hit them. The health stats do little to mitigate his terrible bases.

item 3142 gives him some basic edge, but at the cost of any defense he so sorely needed. With the nerfs to his lifesteal he can't make use of this and the move speed buff will simply not make up for his slow, self rooting Q, and easily walked out of W or single charge E dash.

His R is simply a means to prolong the inevitable as you more often than not end up bursted down due to your low defenses and the fact that you didn't kill or disrupt anyone running up on your team. So you stand there limping away while they clean up your team and then turn on you.

He's frankly, a mess.

His previous winrate of 47% has only continued to drop, nearing 46% now in his main role of Top Lane. Jungle is down to 41% from 43%.

I'm not sure how much more proof people need to see before something is done. He was reworked, gutted, and put right back into obscurity and non play.

16 Comments

Düff McWhalen7 votes

Preach. I've seen plenty of pro games with Aatrox post nerfs and he just performs awful.

xDogMeatx3 votes

ashe is the new aatrox now shes the ALL IN JUGGERNAUT.

Moody P3 votes

slower and more telegraphed than Illaoi's

why do you have to lie to make your point?

Düff McWhalen5 votes

[{quoted}](name=Moody P,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=zj24WdXE,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-03-27T21:26:04.513+0000)

why do you have to lie to make your point?

I mean. Clock the animations side by side in gifs. It's pretty bad ha ha.

Moody P2 votes

Illaoi can't dash during her animations which is an enormous difference on its own

Mavëríck2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Moody P,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=zj24WdXE,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2019-03-27T22:14:59.113+0000)

Illaoi can't dash during her animations which is an enormous difference on its own

Fair enough on my embellishment in relation to Illaoi. Aatrox is still fawkin' SLOOOOWWWW.

huhndog3 votes

Easy fix: REVERT AATROX not modify Boris

Tin Obliterates1 votes

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Easy fix: REVERT AATROX not modify Boris

Maybe then his 12 mains will stop complaining.

huhndog2 votes

[{quoted}](name=garen god dab,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=zj24WdXE,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2019-03-28T14:42:55.592+0000)

Maybe then his 12 mains will stop complaining.

haha nice meme. Grow up. We all know that this rework didnt catch the essence of the original champion. They should make Boris a separate champion and give Aatrox an actual rework

Ragnaveil2 votes

Here's an idea:

  • Get rid of Q1 and put it on W, then increase the cast speed towards the end of the cast for the two remaining Qs. Remove bonus damage for hitting Edge and put it into the ratios.
  • W becomes a line skillshot that slows targets hit.
  • E healing actually becomes healing when attacking champions.
SaTkE2 votes

Keep these threads coming. Every day until Riot does something.

Iota Theta2 votes

I'm not sure how much more proof people need to see before something is done.

Well, Riot is aware thag he’s not in the best spot. the fact that they did a double nerf on E didn’t help. But they have been looking into how to adjust him and experimenting, so that’s a promising sign that they haven’t just resigned him to a terrible state but want to make him better in non-pro.

Perductor2 votes

Honestly I loved the old Aatrox if you knew how to use him you would do great I played the old Aatrox non stop a few weeks before his rework and my top went from like a 47% win rate to i had a 70% win rate top with him. they just need to revert him back. I dont like riven 2.0 at all i played him 1 time after the rework and haven't touched him since then.

Mavëríck1 votes

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Honestly I loved the old Aatrox if you knew how to use him you would do great I played the old Aatrox non stop a few weeks before his rework and my top went from like a 47% win rate to i had a 70% win rate top with him. they just need to revert him back. I dont like riven 2.0 at all i played him 1 time after the rework and haven't touched him since then.

I played Old Aatrox all over the first and second seasons he was out. The meta never favored him, and by the time it did, the rework was already out in a week. It's so sad.

THAT SAID.

I LOVE Bbtrox. I really do. It looks powerful, cool, edgy, the skins are awesome. The problem is the actual mechanical aspects of him. He does not feel good or satisfying to play as, and he's a joke to play against.

Perductor1 votes

I like the way he looks just give him back his old kit.

Aatrox Airlines1 votes

Completely agree. On the less dark bright side tho, Riot at least acknowledged that he needs changes and they tried to make something happen with those failed ult changes so we know there's something coming. Can't wait for buffs.

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