Nerfing magic damage on Sated won't help (especially vs Yi)

dEAdbUs··3 votes·605 views

Right now Yi, Xin, Shyv can kill everything with BotRK + tank items. And there is no way to stop them. Plus you helped them: Visage buffed, Yi buffed, Thornmail nerfed, Frozen Heart nerfed, Dead's Man Plate added.

And what did you do to change it? You are nerfing magic damage on Sated. Look at the pick, and find out how much magic damage Sated is dealing.

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Blue Socialist1 votes

Source on magic damage nerf?

Serevas1 votes

Surrender at 20 or the lol wiki patch notes for PBE. Both have the changes listed as follows:

Enchantment: Devourer Magic damage on hit per stack reduced to .67 from 1

Enchantment: Sated Devourer Magic damage on hit reduced to 50 from 60

Meep Man1 votes

I think it's not that Devourer is too strong, its that there isn't enough or nearly effective enough anti-basic attack items/champions in the game. We've got Rammus, Teemo, Quinn, and Jax. Only Rammus negates all forms of basic attacks. Thornmail, Randuin's, and Frozen Heart are our only anti-AA items and you need all of them to be effective, which costs around 5500 gold. If there was more anti-AA items in the game, Devourer wouldn't be such a problem. Buff Thornmail (since people seem to want that), and add more anti-AA effects to the game or buff the current ones in a way to counter the current AA champions.

Mecha MaIphite1 votes

Malphite sniff

Woook3r1 votes

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I think it's not that Devourer is too strong, its that there isn't enough or nearly effective enough anti-basic attack items/champions in the game. We've got Rammus, Teemo, Quinn, and Jax. Only Rammus negates all forms of basic attacks. Thornmail, Randuin's, and Frozen Heart are our only anti-AA items and you need all of them to be effective, which costs around 5500 gold. If there was more anti-AA items in the game, Devourer wouldn't be such a problem. Buff Thornmail (since people seem to want that), and add more anti-AA effects to the game or buff the current ones in a way to counter the current AA champions.

Whats wrong with melee basic attacks? Its the fact that you double the on hit every other hit. A single item that's passive gives you 50% more ddmg. Infinity edge passive increases your dmg by 25%*.2

Mecha MaIphite1 votes

Phantom hit does not give you 50% additional damage as the actual damage from your regular auto is not doubled.

Nilok1 votes

The problem is how abusive it is on those champions.

On most champions it is a nice boost, on a few it simply becomes obscene.

ofart1 votes

I'm not even sure it's a problem. If that were the case, we'd see Devourer JGs in competitive.

CoolKnightST1 votes

Right now only Shyvana has made it their. And only C9 is using it.

Dr Poro1 votes

The reason why you never see devourer junglers or never saw feral flare junglers in competitive is because organised teams can easily shut them down. In soloQ, however, there's no such thing as organised teams. You can be a good teamplayer, but never at the level of people who can chat with eachother and played with eachother for months/years.

Ship 0F Ducks1 votes

you should of gotten some armor and you'd see a big difference against botrk + tank dudes

dEAdbUs1 votes

I was playing Rammus. Check my match history. Yi totally countered me. Yi countered Rammus. Sounds like something stupid, but it's true. My Rammus - one of safest junglers early (thx to his Q) was totally destroyed early by Yi with Sated. While Riot position Sated like "weak early, strong late" item, and like Rammus counters AA champs like Yi. Bullsh$t! Sated is a king of jungle, nuff said. I had 0 chances.

Ship 0F Ducks1 votes

well yeah, "rammus counters yi" does not mean you can duel him at any point of the game....it just means he cant dive anyone simply cuz he'll get taunted and killed. And in team fights you're a serious threat to him until you taunt somone else, so hes not even going to bother to help until you blow your cc. Thats what makes rammus so strong againt yi(until he gets qss ofc)

if you wish to counter yi, simply play glass vi, xin, rengar anyone that can blow up him...yi is exremely squishy, and it'll come to a point he won't be able to 1v1 you until he gets someone on his team to cc you(since you're pretty squishy too but have cc) ...but ofc it'll still depend on his skill to dodge and block ur spells effectively.

I personally don't think it was early game if you said he killed you with sated, it would mean he either real fed up or its no longer early game.....rammus is a real threat early cuz of his ganks....not safe jungling.... you should try to use that if you didn't.

anyways.....good luck

dEAdbUs1 votes

I was wrong, I meant Devourer, not Sated.

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