Why do you remove all counterplay to Vayne

Jefftiffy·Jan 17, 2017·4 votes·464 views

Seriosuly what are we supposed to do to her when she has a uncounterable invis late game? She already has a fuckton of damage and mobility.

How the hell are we supposed to counter a bare minimum of a 50% uptime on her invis? You took away pink wards. You are slowly taking true sight away from champs.

If you want her to have the 1s invis the Q CD needs to be at least 3s late game so we have a 2s window to hit her with anything on target because she already has so much mobility.

Don't get me wrong I'm glad one shot Vayne is gone, but all I want is more counterplay to her invis. Literally something so I can actually fight back even if it was a less smooth animation that gave us more a hint as to where she tumbled. I just want something to be able to at least outplay a Vayne if they get caught with their pants down in the middle of 3 people.

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BIackfoxJan 17, 20172 votes

Have my downvote

JefftiffyJan 17, 20173 votes

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Have my downvote

And have my downvote for the lack of conversation or even criticism.

TS MediaJan 17, 20172 votes

The Q CD is 3 seconds late game. On top of that, Vayne is back to being bad. Even more so with how bad ADCs are this patch.

JefftiffyJan 17, 20171 votes

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The Q CD is 3 seconds late game. On top of that, Vayne is back to being bad. Even more so with how bad ADCs are this patch.

The point isn't about that. The point is that Vayne is in a state where when she ults no one can do anything to stop her especially once she maxes Q. This is ignoring the fact that she can get CDR to make the CD lower. The CD is currently 2s + time inbetween the tumble and the shot fired. But that time is pretty long when you consider she also is running at about 550 MS during her ult which is much faster than most other champs can run.

I'm not even asking for nerf to Vayne I just want some way to out play her when her ult is up. Other than just blow her up instantly with Chain CC because she has QSS.

BIackfoxJan 17, 20172 votes

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And have my downvote for the lack of conversation or even criticism.

Enjoy your op being -3

JefftiffyJan 17, 20172 votes

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Enjoy your op being -3

Going to ever offer an argument or are you going to continue to be a troll who is just bumping my thread.

BIackfoxJan 17, 20172 votes

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Going to ever offer an argument or are you going to continue to be a troll who is just bumping my thread.

I would but I've had this conversation hundreds of times to people like you who cry about vayne each and every day. The same people who say "waaa no pink ward anymore so I can't see vayne"

Yeah and you never used the pink ward before to see her so stop making excuses.

Also no one buys cdr on vayne

ApexInTheCircleJan 17, 20171 votes

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I would but I've had this conversation hundreds of times to people like you who cry about vayne each and every day. The same people who say "waaa no pink ward anymore so I can't see vayne"

Yeah and you never used the pink ward before to see her so stop making excuses.

Also no one buys cdr on vayne

I'm a silver player and I've always purchased pinks to counter Akali and Vayne. Just sayin.