@Riot some context on why secondary playstyles are getting consistently removed?

Photos of Ghosts··3 votes·630 views

Stop pretending balance is so hard that you need to freeze down each champion to a specific build. GP lost his suppworthy E, and now AP GP is getting nerfed boom out of nowhere. Malphite has no more the tools to be an AD bruiser. Skarner got all of his AP ratios nerfed, while not being dominant in any way, Thresh got nerfed in his AS scaling instead of his overwhelming utility. Tristana... got killed both as ADC and APC, mainly due to the worse passive since now even her damage as APC is reliant on autoattacking. New Rylai proc'ing on pets makes AP Malzahar so much better than AD Malzahar since Frozen Mallet doesn't. The due nerf to Sion's E was not compensated with an AP ratio increase, thus making AP Sion much harder to pull off. Sona is now nothing but a Q poke bot. Mordehue lost his AD ratios #COMPENSATIONBOIS New ADCs have each time less AP ratios and more AD ratios. Braum has only ONE offensive ratio, and it's a 60% AP on ultimate. Wow. Please tell me what king of build could bring this to fruition. Garen lost first his ult's ratio then his DFG. MF lost first her viability as mage then her W identity. Sigh.

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Trash Dove1 votes

...bacause they don't want me playing AP Rengar, yet Ezreal can do what he pleases.

Also Sona is more than just a Q bot, shes a mobile party bus. Tons of utility late game. Tank Sona is on another level though.

GinoSoldier1 votes

I feel like Sona's particularly good at her no1 job; teaching the game. The way she plays is wildly reliant on how she builds, and i find that to be great.

Atik L Yar1 votes

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I feel like Sona's particularly good at her no1 job; teaching the game. The way she plays is wildly reliant on how she builds, and i find that to be great.

Now if only they would give her back some of her tankiness.

They reduced her aura range, so she has to be right in the thick of a teamfight. But she explodes the second the enemy ADC focuses her.

Photos of Ghosts1 votes

New Sona's only purpose is to prevent anyone botlane from having hp, herself included. Her auras could as well not be there. EDIT: it was for the guy of the utility bus, mb.

GinoSoldier1 votes

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New Sona's only purpose is to prevent anyone botlane from having hp, herself included. Her auras could as well not be there. EDIT: it was for the guy of the utility bus, mb.

They may not feel like much, but think about it like this, one Sona Q aura alone that buffs three allies is the near-equivalent to Nami's E, slow excluded. If it gets 5 people, it's actually better as far as i'm concerned. Same thing later on in the game, while Soraka's R might be more powerful, one well-timed Sona W can (potentially) massively reduce the damage your entire team takes, and AP Sona's lategame E is practically a Sivir R.

I can definitely agree that she's a utility bus, since she's far strongest when she's surrounded by allies no matter how you play her.

I'll also agree that she's an early game lane-bully because she has too easily available and reliable damage early game.

Full lvl 5 Q may feel like it's 'just' 200+.5AP damage, but that's actually x2, assuming you have two targets. And without R ranks, the Q autoattack buff at lvl 5 deals 60+.2AP. Potentially 5x. With maxed out R ranks, it's 100+.2.

Assuming she's playing AP and has 500 AP, that's a potential of 200+250x2, 900 Q direct damage, plus 100+100x5 AA enhanced damage, so one Q can technically deal 1900 damage at not-quite-max proficiency. And the higher part of that damage can come from the aura rather than the Q itself, more so even if you aren't playing AP.

McAllister1 votes

You started to lose me at GP (E did not make him a viable support) and you finished at Mordekaiser. There's a difference between secondary builds and your deluded belief that you should be able to build anything on anyone. Also, AD Malz is fine.

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