All of the Nerfs to Mages is outrageous Riot

Akali is SO HOT·Nov 26, 2015·9 votes·1,639 views

Just look at the midlane statistics. Look how unviable all those mages are with all the massive nerfs they've gotten.

http://i.imgur.com/YogIpWf.png

31 Comments

CreationFlawNov 26, 20156 votes

Lol. Look at all those 1.5% and 2%'s tho.

Akali is SO HOTNov 27, 20151 votes

A lot of champions hover around a 1 to 3% pickrate. Your point?

Dominick DestineNov 26, 20153 votes

Have you tried controlling for solo ranked , plat and above? no.

The prosecution rests.

RebonackNov 26, 20154 votes

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Have you tried controlling for solo ranked , plat and above? no.

The prosecution rests.

That's taken from Champ.gg.

Their statistics only take into account Plat+ Solo Ranked games.

Dominick DestineNov 26, 20151 votes

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Their statistics only take into account Plat+ Solo Ranked games.

Then the data is being misinterpreted. The inflation might be because of the lower average picks per 1000 games.

Akali is SO HOTNov 26, 20153 votes

tfw someone replies to a thread but has no idea what they're talking about

RebonackNov 26, 20152 votes

I can feel their suffering, the poor dears.

MimyNov 26, 20152 votes

Its so tragic.

FadedpfNov 26, 20152 votes

Better delete this or change title before Rito notices and buffs the hell out of them...

IonianNov 26, 20151 votes

Brand and Swain are getting nerfs. Anivia, Malz, Kayle and Annie have very high winrates because they're the easiest champions in the game. Lux was overbuffed and they still haven't touched her. The rest, idk. I never see Karthus, Zilean or Cho mid.

14kIP well spentNov 26, 20156 votes

It's almost as if a lot of the winrates are due to relative pick-rates/correlating inexperience.

YCitizenSnipsYNov 26, 20152 votes

If a champion is unenviable it means even their mains cant win with them. Ever since the preseaon the boards have been filled with how unenviable mages are and how bad they have it. None of these champions seem to be suffering from poor masteries for AP or poor CDR options or from AD bias.

CaptnJakSparrowNov 26, 20151 votes

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Brand and Swain are getting nerfs. Anivia, Malz, Kayle and Annie have very high winrates because they're the easiest champions in the game. Lux was overbuffed and they still haven't touched her. The rest, idk. I never see Karthus, Zilean or Cho mid.

I see Zilean every other game, and he's annoying as fuck.

MathbalnaseNov 26, 20151 votes

Not in mid, you don't (Zilian 0.5% pick rate in mid). Which is what this thread is apparently about, since that's the only lane evidence was provided for.

CaptnJakSparrowNov 26, 20151 votes

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Not in mid, you don't (Zilian 0.5% pick rate in mid). Which is what this thread is apparently about, since that's the only lane evidence was provided for.

Uhh, yeah I actually do.

Zilean mid and Brand support.

Every other plat 3-1 game I'm in.

Thank you for trying to tell me what is, and isn't in my games though.

MathbalnaseNov 26, 20151 votes

You do know your ranked match history is visible, right?

Edit: I'll just go through them in order: no zilean or brand brand (enemy team), but no zilean zilean (on your team) with a support item - probably wasn't mid - but no brand no zilean or brand zilean (enemy) with 2 CS - I'm going to go ahead and say that this guy wasn't mid - but no brand no zilean or brand no zilean or brand

so...you see zilean mid in 'every other ranked game', but haven't seen even one in your last 7 games? do I need to keep digging?

CaptnJakSparrowNov 26, 20151 votes

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You do know your ranked match history is visible, right?

You do know I have multiple accounts, right?

Even on my captnjaksparrow history I guarantee in just this week there's been two Zilean mids and multiple Brand supports.

Sooooo. Yeah. Now you're an even bigger dumbass because you're trying to tell me I'm not facing what I'm facing when my match history is right fucking there lol.

Additional P.S: Played against Zilean mid 20 hours ago as Kindred with SKN.

Also lately, a lot of people are banning: Brand + Zilean + Soraka + Jax + Lucian + Yasuo + Mundo. <-- Those are the pretty common bans right now tbh.

MathbalnaseNov 26, 20151 votes

Feel free to link those games, then.

CaptnJakSparrowNov 26, 20151 votes

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Feel free to link those games, then.

Nope. I don't give out my smurfs.

MathbalnaseNov 26, 20152 votes

Sooo...lies? Yeah, smells like lies.

CaptnJakSparrowNov 26, 20151 votes

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Sooo...lies? Yeah, smells like lies.

CaptnJakSparrow (NA) - 8 months ago Ezreal Wright (NA) - 8 months ago

The guy hides his own name rofl

It ruins the fun if the bronzies on here find out it's me :(.

I've already ran into 4 of them.

Actually no. It's been established for a long time now that I don't give out my smurf names. I'm also not going to take 50 minutes out of my day paint editing out everyone's names on all of my accounts just to appeal to your claim. Not worth the time or effort.

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/GD/24og0ton-bronze-5-hell <-- Link for confirmation.

MathbalnaseNov 26, 20151 votes

I'm not saying you're lying about not giving out the names of your other accounts. I'm saying you're lying about seeing a champion (and lane/role combination) 'every other game' that happens to have a 0.5% play rate. It is simply not plausible, and you have provided precisely zero evidence to support your claim.

So yeah, smells like lies.

MathbalnaseNov 26, 20153 votes

Anivia has one of the slowest skillshots in the game, that she's heavily reliant on especially in the early game. She also has the single lowest base HP in the game, the lowest MS in the game, no in-kit mobility boosts. She's one of the most mana-hungry champs in the game, with no in-kit mana regen or other extra benefit from mana (unlike mana-hungry counterparts like Xerath, Swain, etc). Yes, she has strengths. She also has plenty of weaknesses that can make her quite difficult to succeed with in unskilled hands.

IonianNov 26, 20151 votes

Cool. She has a passive that makes you literally unable to kill her in lane 1v1 if you're an ap champion, no matter how hard she screws up, she does NOT ever need to hit Q because E+R is a guaranteed way to hit that super skilled 100% ap targeted nuke, builds hp anyway, builds tons of mana regen anyway, and did I mention she only has 1 skillshot that is not ever needed post-6? Lmao.

MathbalnaseNov 26, 20151 votes

Does that passive not have a CD? And does it not also include an effect that makes her significantly more vulnerable while under its effects in the early game? Does she have access to R pre-6? Does she spend precious gold on mana 'anyway', or because if she didn't, she'd be gimped? (and similarly with HP) Since when did 'skillshot' only refer to linear projectiles?

Oh, and did I forget to mention that Anivia has one of the oldest 'if you screw this up you might very well end up helping the enemy team' abilities?

IonianNov 26, 20151 votes

A cd too short to actually capitalise on it if you don't have your jungle helping, as just triggering her egg will require a lot of effort and cooldowns, and it doesn't take many braincells to, as Anivia, play safe until it's back up. You hit level 6 at like 6-7 mins, wow that's a reeeeeeeeeeally period of time where you actually have to hit your only skillshot, oh no!!! "she'd be gimped" I guess almost every AP mid is really hard to play then because they all have to buy a mana regen item :O Skillshots are non-targeted abilities with a delay. W has no delay. E is targeted. R has no delay. And how is her W even relevant? God forbid there's anything difficult about Anivia right?