Please watch this before you quit jungling
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWOZoB4k8VM
much of what you see here has not changed, and if I can use this understanding of the jungle camps to do a full clear of the jungle as hecarim without a leash
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNZWrxpLgAQ
you too can find a way to make your jungler of choice work
HateDaddy6 votesHey folks
Commando Yi is the real deal here. I would definitely take his advice on some of this stuff, he's very good at analyzing and breaking down very small details to make them seem simple enough for the most basic player to understand.
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B1naryB0t4 votesThank you for doing this, I much prefer this to the typical whining.
Thefriendlyorc3 votesAs a hecarim jungler I appreciate the videos on one of leagues more feast or famine champs. Honestly the issues I have with him personally is keeping up with the hyper mobile jump over walls champs. Ult is great, the dash knock is fantastic if flanking, but so many of them disregard positioning and just get out of dodge when you gank with little to be done to counter their mobility.
tainteddaze2 votesthe krugs do give a bonus outside the jungle. If you attack a tower with the buff on it takes the buff off and does a big chunk of damage to that tower. Making pushing on jungler a little better. That is why back door udyr and master yi are even stronger this season then the others.
Commando Yi4 votesthe krugs do give a bonus outside the jungle. If you attack a tower with the buff on it takes the buff off and does a big chunk of damage to that tower. Making pushing on jungler a little better. That is why back door udyr and master yi are even stronger this season then the others.
videos a few months old but yes this was brought up back then and i acknowledged that it was an oversight in the comments section D:
WolfBV1 votesMy life was so simple before this moment.
Gorbache2 votesIt's not that the jungle isn't possible now, it's just so much less fun than it used to be in the first few season 5 patches.
Billhartz2 votesWhy do you feel that way?
Gorbache1 votesWhy do you feel that way?
All the nerfs make it so that the jungle is very systematic and very prone to invade (unless you have one of the champions with a better clear). You could grab purple smite for a significantly faster clear (when it had less cooldown), you could get the enchant that increase damage per stack and your jungler wouldn't hit like a wet noodle at the end of the game. I have the feeling that they pulled too quickly on this one. They should instead of used the power of the jungler items so make jungler impactful during the game rather than bringing them back to being supportive to the team. In example, if you build tanky, you won't be as tanky as your top laner (if he goes tanky). Same goes for damage, you won't be as useful than your mid laner or your adc. That leaves the support style of jungler and at this point, I'd rather just play support and roam once in a while.
I like the actual jungle though post-early game, you have a good choice of vision, objectives, etc. But your character doesn't feel fun anymore (which is why I don't jungle unless I'm stuck with it).
Stonington2 votesNo, not at all. I think it's fine and the nerfs in the more recent patches have nerfed early game and bruiser junglers more than anyone else. Are you having problems in the jungle?
WolfBV1 votesThis was very useful.