Do you not know how good attackspeed is on her because of how hard her passive scales?
no wonder people are saying she "falls off". you buy trash items like warriors and ghost blade on a champion that has next to zero AD scaling on her abilities and is 100% dependent on AAing then no shit you are going to fall off.
how much is that 30 AD from ghost blade even adding to her Q and E? like 5 AD lmao?
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lolipopevelynn2 votesSo you want them to buy devourer, which was recently nerfed quite hard for ranged champions, and miss out on the armor pen and CDR stat in warrior?
the 50% atkspeed alone is better than warriors for kindred...
It's almost like she gets more damage from them because of the arpen adding to her bases.
its almost as if people dont stack armor in this game.
flat armor pen will do jack shit for her mid and late game. you are throwing it all out the window.
you are wasting 2 item slots for a grand total of 30 armor pen and 20% CDR. why? just buy cleaver...
attack speed will add alot more to her damage than armor pen will.
junglerboy162 votes{quoted} attack speed will add alot more to her damage than armor pen will.
Mostly, but rather attack speed will help her damage a lot more than flat armor pen, % armor pen is essential to her late game and having both LW and Cleaver make her on-hits hurt like a truck since they are physical damage from both BotRK and her passive.
lolipopevelynn3 votesMostly, but rather attack speed will help her damage a lot more than flat armor pen, % armor pen is essential to her late game and having both LW and Cleaver make her on-hits hurt like a truck since they are physical damage from both BotRK and her passive.
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warriors and ghost blade falls off so hard where as devour and a % armor pen item does not.
junglerboy161 votesDefinitely.
Warrior might have been an okay option if she had higher AD ratios, but since her damage is all on-hit, it falls off before she can really make optimal use of it.
Eedat1 votesthe 50% atkspeed alone is better than warriors for kindred...
With that whopping 0-1 stack shes going to have on her passive at this point right?
LaughingMan111 votesWith that whopping 0-1 stack shes going to have on her passive at this point right?
I usually have 2-3 stacks by the time I get my Devourer, js.
lolipopevelynn1 votesWith that whopping 0-1 stack shes going to have on her passive at this point right?
she can get 3 stacks in the first 6 mins fairly easily if you actively hunt jg marks.
Eedat2 votesshe can get 3 stacks in the first 6 mins fairly easily if you actively hunt jg marks.
she can get 3 stacks in the first 6 mins fairly easily if you actively hunt jg marks the enemy jungler lets you hunt jungle marks
ftfy
RedCyclone1 votesStat wise, Devo without being sated is more cost effective then Warrior Just sayin, just because the champion cannot utilize the actual passive that well, does not mean they can't buy that item and do well with it
At this point for Kin, I think both are great choices for her
Professor Ward4 votesyou do realize that they arent buying ghostblade soley for the ad right? And that 30 ad isnt bought for ability scaling its bought to help her auto damage.
Renaille3 votesIt's almost like she gets more damage from them because of the arpen adding to her bases.
3tyson3 votesThey think that litle armor pen and cdr is good for kindred just ignore them and keep on biying devourer
they dont understand that if they didnt nerv devourer a 6stack kindred with botrk would be like a 12stacked one and shred everything
they usualy bring up dumb arguments like what if u cant get marks
wel if u cant get marks go play amumu afther u got ur devourer and botrk u got plenty of time to get armor pen from black cleaver and last wisp
just bcua its nerved doesnt mean its crap now atk speed is god on kindred
Jbels4 votesThey think that litle armor pen and cdr is good for kindred just ignore them and keep on biying devourer
they dont understand that if they didnt nerv devourer a 6stack kindred with botrk would be like a 12stacked one and shred everything
they usualy bring up dumb arguments like what if u cant get marks
wel if u cant get marks go play amumu afther u got ur devourer and botrk u got plenty of time to get armor pen from black cleaver and last wisp
just bcua its nerved doesnt mean its crap now atk speed is god on kindred
You're the one that needs to be ignored. At this point you're in denial. I've already shown you why Warrior is better, as have others. Devourer is a fun little gimmick, but if you actually want to win consistently on Kindred, you buy Warrior
3tyson1 votes__> {quoted}
You're the one that needs to be ignored. At this point you're in denial. I've already shown you why Warrior is better, as have others. Devourer is a fun little gimmick, but if you actually want to win consistently on Kindred, you buy Warrior
no warrior is really poor for kindred its a terrible choise really maybe u should actually try and pplay kindred like i did before advising others on how to play them
Jbels3 votesno warrior is really poor for kindred its a terrible choise really
Like I said. An item that Synergizes with your passive and your W? Or an item that Synergizes with your Passive, your Q, your W, and your E. Just based on that, Warrior is objectively better.
3tyson1 votesLike I said. An item that Synergizes with your passive and your W? Or an item that Synergizes with your Passive, your Q, your W, and your E. Just based on that, Warrior is objectively better.
go try and play so far i just keep on winning and u dont have match history with them
it devourer scales with e passive and w and armor pen is somethng u gonne be buying later 10cdr is shit and so is that litle armor pen compared to the superior atk speed of devourer pls go and play kindred before advising other people
Jbels1 votesgo try and play so far i just keep on winning and u dont have match history with them
it devourer scales with e passive and w and armor pen is somethng u gonne be buying later 10cdr is shit and so is that litle armor pen compared to the superior atk speed of devourer pls go and play kindred before advising other people
That "little armor pen" makes it all the more easy to kill the damage dealers on the team, just because you've been winning with Devourer doesn't mean it's more efficient on her. Wait a few more weeks when people get used to her and realize she does jack shit for damage early when you build devourer. Can't get kills without damage. Which means you'll be farming all game until you can get damage, at which point your team will have needed you to be more of a threat earlier (that's where warrior comes in)
3tyson1 votesThat "little armor pen" makes it all the more easy to kill the damage dealers on the team, just because you've been winning with Devourer doesn't mean it's more efficient on her. Wait a few more weaks when people get used to her and realize she does jack shit for damage early when you build devourer. Can't get kills without damage. Which means you'll be farming all game until you can get damage, at which point your team will have needed you to be more of a threat earlier (that's where warrior comes in)
i would say you are playing kindred wrong but iwatched ur match history and noticed u havent played kindred
made me feel stupid i could have just read ur comment and see that you have not played kkindred
ps a smal tip kindred gets about a free botrk on damage out of the enemy jungle if you are incapeble of collecting these
might be a good jungler for you
Jbels1 votesi would say you are playing kindred wrong but iwatched ur match history and noticed u havent played kindred
made me feel stupid i could have just read ur comment and see that you have not played kkindred
I don't need to play a kindred to know how items interact with her. You would have a solid argument if we were boiling it down to mechanics.
3tyson1 votesI don't need to play a kindred to know how items interact with her. You would have a solid argument if we were boiling it down to mechanics.
enough said i gues go play kindred a bit and come back
i actualy started with the warrios when i bought this champ because i saw some videos on youtube where they said how devourer was nerved
once i experienced how bad this item works for kindred i quickly stopped building it
i usualy asume that its a first timer kindred who just came from youtube when i see them poor guys building a warrior lol i just know your not gonne have a chance
Jbels3 votesenough said i gues go play kindred a bit and come back
i actualy started with the warrios when i bought this champ because i saw some videos on youtube where they said how devourer was nerved
once i experienced how bad this item works for kindred i quickly stopped building it
i usualy asume that its a first timer kindred who just came from youtube when i see them poor guys building a warrior lol i just know your not gonne have a chance
You can drop your superior attitude. I'll let the meta speak for itself when it proves which item is better.
3tyson1 votesYou can drop your superior attitude. I'll let the meta speak for itself when it proves which item is better.
sure could you please tell me how to play some other champs you have never used before ?
Jbels2 votessure could you please tell me how to play some other champs you have never used before ?
Sure. And you can educate me on how to sound like I've never played the game before :)
3tyson1 votesSure. And you can educate me on how to sound like I've never played the game before :)
seriouly u should really try the champ
its like teemo in theory hed be a great suport with that blind in reality not really
Gigahappytown1 votesI don't need to play a kindred to know how items interact with her. You would have a solid argument if we were boiling it down to mechanics.
>kindred mechanics
you mean RMB right?
lolipopevelynn2 votesi cant even think of a champ that still buys warriors aside from shaco and wu...
well i guess vi gets it, but even vi players are starting to go devour
Jbels3 votesi cant even think of a champ that still buys warriors aside from shaco and wu...
well i guess vi gets it, but even vi players are starting to go devour
No they aren't. Good Vi's know that warrior is more efficient on her in every way. If they are resorting to Devourer on Vi, then they are doing it for fun, not because they think it's better than Warrior or cinderhulk on her
Bears Dont Care2 votesi cant even think of a champ that still buys warriors aside from shaco and wu...
well i guess vi gets it, but even vi players are starting to go devour
Those vi players are dumb. vi is an ad caster, she gets most of her damage from skill usage not aas
Caytheles1 votesWarrior is actually abit better on her if you want to make a grand impact early.
lolipopevelynn1 votes[{quoted}](name=Tetris C,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RO4hANlj,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2015-10-20T01:26:00.778+0000)
Warrior is actually abit better on her if you want to make a grand impact early.
the problem with warriors istn about it being good early, its problem is that it falls off HARD into the mid game and even HARDER into late game. you will be forced to sell it just for a better item when you could have just went devour and scaled.
Gigahappytown1 votesI don't see a better build than
literally any boots it don't matter 
3tyson1 votesI don't see a better build than
I see how u say runas is great on him it seems one of the best items for kindred
Somehow dont seem to do that good with it but w/e Devourer botrk black cleaver is deff the way yo go! Last wisp a good item afther that
I just feel that my early ganks r that much more sucesafull using chilling smite instead because of his short slow
With about those items but frozen mallot instead of hurycane for my extra kiting potential i shredded nasus at 48min who had only build armor and hp his entire game 1v1
Aezanthya1 votesWow you are really ugh... wrong.
First the purple jungle item is worthless on Kindred like LOL... you don't need the aoe smite lmao just for that I should've ignored and downvoted you.
Second, you don't take warrior for the ad (even tho ad is ad) you take it for the cdr and the armor pen. Your passive deals physical damage your e is physical your q is physical your w is physical. No one cares about a shitty non sated devourer. hell even a sated devourer is so worthless because if you are actually good at the game, you'd have enough gear to kill any target in 3 hits or 4 => making the devourer USELESS. Except maybe tanks, but they'll die so fast anyway so who cares.
basically buying devourer is the most dumb thing ever you can do on kindred.
Edit : and yeah attack speed is nice, warrior, bortk, berzerk, trinity and from then you can go anything you want. You can even go BT + IE and just lol at those -60% health first hit. "but bruh devourer".
Lamarson1 voteshey, why not play her like an ADC? get your basic jg item and then build..idk,triforce or IE?
ProfDrDeath1 votesPersonally, I like Warrior on Kindred more than Devourer. Why?
However, I don't think Youmuu's is the ideal thing to go after Warrior. Rather, you'd want some form of AS now, especially if you managed to collect some of these marks. I am even thinking about going Zephyr, maybe - a bit of AD, more CdR and importantly, movement speed on top of the AS. Kindred is slow as molasses.