Seems like Ahri has no punishment for missing skillshots
She missed charm and Q, but doesn't matter because W and R still chunk your HP with those mini sparkly balls. Also don't forget thunderlords.
She missed charm and Q, but doesn't matter because W and R still chunk your HP with those mini sparkly balls. Also don't forget thunderlords.
she's not going to be killing you with thunderlord's + ulti + w. Her main source of damage is in her Q.
This could be applied to pretty much everyone. You aren't going to hit your full combo in every trade. If she needs to use her ult just to be able to chunk you some, you now have the advantage that she no longer has significant mobility and the knowledge that she isn't very good at landing those skillshots.
Eh, her Q also significantly enhances her movement speed, it also makes it easier for her opponent to miss as well. I'd expect it'd make a good setup for a jungler gank if any time she whiffs and you want to punish her, it was instead bait and she's moving faster than you are to set up a Charm attempt. Oh, and of course it's on a short enough cooldown she'd likely be able to use it again before you're under tower, and it's fast enough she should be able to land them more often than not. Not to mention her passive heal.
But I'll take it over the likes of "non-commital and definitely non-consensual relationship" LeBlanc, "Mr. Point-Click-You-And-Your-Minions-Explode-While-I-Get-Free-Starship-Enterprise-Level-Shielding" Ryze, and "Redonkulous Sustain, Damage, Mobility, Shielding, Utility it's the Lee Sin April Fool's joke video that actually came to life" Yasuo.
Ahri's range is very low on all her skills compared to the average mage.
On top of this, she has extremely low defensive stats, not as bad as Zyra but definitely bottom 10. She does not need nerfs, if she 100-0s you even after she misses Q/E then she is fed, you are way out of position or you are severely underfed.
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Ahri's range is very low on all her skills compared to the average mage.
On top of this, she has extremely low defensive stats, not as bad as Zyra but definitely bottom 10. She does not need nerfs, if she 100-0s you even after she misses Q/E then she is fed, you are way out of position or you are severely underfed.
Bit snowbally eh?
Yeah at least she cant quickly reposition in your face 3 times and point blanc throw her spells... oh wait Kappa
She can't just hit R R R as if she was katarina because her ult has a 1 second cooldown before you can cast again
[zombie-brand-facepalm]
And if she throws a point blank q it's going to take longer for her q to do the true damage portion of the spell because now you have to wait for the q to come back from max range to melee range.
Ahri's burst damage is on the lower end too.
Sadly, that is still enough to kill you with the current mastery system.
Mana cost for missing your E is pretty high actually. You want to connect on both parts of your Q as well.
Playing as Ahri, you really don't want to use your ult aggressively unless you are sure you can get the kill. You just lose too much survivability without it.
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Mana cost for missing your E is pretty high actually. You want to connect on both parts of your Q as well.
Playing as Ahri, you really don't want to use your ult aggressively unless you are sure you can get the kill. You just lose too much survivability without it.
I don't even bother leveling charm level 3 and instead put a second point into Q.
Charm isn't the fastest skill shot in the game and it costs a lot of mana, nor does it even do that much damage at rank 1.
I'm way better off putting a second point into Q if I know my jungler isn't coming to gank for me, so that way I can just play the harrass game with Q.
R W Q tld is enough to oneshot people and 2 of these spells arent even targeted. but you know skillshot relient ultra safe good waveclear and some sustain champ. her winrate doesnt lie. but you cant nerf her you gonna trigger the weebs(nothing wrong with weebs)
No punishment...... except losing the majority of her damage lol
Bulk of Ahri's damage is in her Q, and most of that is in the true damage second hit of it.
"Ahri doesn't suffer enough from missing skill sh-"
Yeah, not buying it.
She's extremely punished for missing her Charm because that's her main source for engages and peels. 8 seconds is a very long time that you could be using to chase her down because she just lost herself a possible guaranteed kill so she has to either commit to the fight or back out.
Between Thunderlord's Decree and the damage amplification in Ferocity+Cunning, almost every mage has what is essentially Deathfire Grasp available to them.
Possibly. But this only works on low elo laners who even after getting wrecked early game REFUSE to build an abyssal.