should darius ult hit if you flash before the animation is done?

Rustling Bush·Dec 20, 2014·8 votes·1,136 views

this happened to me when he used his ult, when he was at the height of his jump i flashed but i still took the damage.

21 Comments

AtheosisXDec 20, 20149 votes

Yes it should.

TalamareDec 20, 20144 votes

Yes, if the animation has started. It should hit.

DryditchDec 20, 20143 votes

So, Sion's Q should hit if the animation/Windup has started and you walk/flash out?

Please, give me the logic behind that.

PhoebosDec 21, 20144 votes

No, but it should hit if the downward animation starts and you flash out, since the downward part is the part that does damage.

ZombiemasterDec 21, 20143 votes

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So, Sion's Q should hit if the animation/Windup has started and you walk/flash out?

Please, give me the logic behind that.

There's one key difference between Sion's Q and Darius' ult: Darius' ult is a targeted ability, it needs a target to be used, whereas Sion's Q does not. If the animation of a targeted ability goes off, then it will always hit it's target, unless the target breaks line of sight. Since Sion's Q is not a targeted ability, it works differently than Darius' ult.

DryditchDec 21, 20141 votes

Makes sense.

Just don't like the odd levels of supposed "counterplay" Riot seems to put on similar champions.

Knight DevoutDec 20, 20144 votes

It's coded this way. Ask CertainlyT why.

Rustling BushDec 20, 20144 votes

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It's coded this way. Ask CertainlyT why.

well its still stupid :l

Knight DevoutDec 20, 20143 votes

It is, as it's stupid that it resets when it hits clones.

VertaniumDec 20, 20142 votes

that was bugfixed. And Ive had many times where I ulted as him and the target flashed or went invis and I just ulted the full HP tank because They went invisible or flashed halfway through the animation.

Slushi SimcambiDec 20, 20142 votes

It shouldn't tbh.

Doesn't make sense from a logical standpoint and also eliminates a potential defensive maneuver.

GeoPeterDec 21, 20142 votes

I may be wrong, but aren't most point and click abilities undodgeable? I thought ranged auto attacks, as well as ranged point and click spells can't be dodged after they take flight. Taric's Dazzle, with it's slow speed stands out as as spell I've seen connect after the enemy flashes (even outside it's max range). It seems unfair to make a melee champion's ultimate suddenly miss with a flash if ranged abilities don't.

PhoebosDec 21, 20142 votes

Would be too easy to dodge if it worked like that, and force a player's ult onto CD.

WhereTheNamesAtDec 21, 20141 votes

but you are forcing a player's flash. last time i checked that cool down is much higher than darius's ult

PhoebosDec 21, 20141 votes

Sure, but think about a teamfight. You flash out of Darius ult and he's finished with it for the rest of the fight.

WhereTheNamesAtDec 21, 20141 votes

then could make it go on a shorter cool down like caitlyn's ult, when it doesn't trigger. but the ult shouldn't connect to the person who flashed

SaiannaDec 21, 20142 votes

Funny fact: Zhyona is uselss vs Darius R. He'll have 3-4s penalty CD, right on time to cast R again when player leaves Zhyona state.

ZamiakeDec 21, 20142 votes

ya it should actually need to hit before hurting u

JustMyBassCannonDec 20, 20141 votes

I believe that "melee" ultimates like Darius', Skarner's and such were designed so that, if you Flash out, you'll still be hit unless you break line of sight.

Simply put, Flash over a wall and see if that works.

HibekiDec 21, 20141 votes

It depends.

If hes beginning the upward jump and you flash out of sight, it cancels and cooldown does not go off.

But if hes swinging DOWN and you go out of sight it doesn't reset.

QuortDec 20, 20141 votes

Once I was playing Lissandra Top against Darius... I thought I outplayed him when I used Frozen Tomb as he used Noxian Guillotine (I expected to be invulnerable when the attack hit) but that's when I learned it just cancels his ult and let's him use it again afterward. Oh well, now I don't make that mistake! ;P