tank uses multiple rotations on squishy carry
"wtf he one shot me"
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Ralanr103 votesSo true.
Go ahead tank haters. Downvote me, I can tank it.
Melledoneus90 votes
No, you can't.
Velzard of Koz39 votesWe need True Armor stat to counter Armor Penetration stat that is supposed to counter Armor stat. In case it would be imbalanced, we might simply make True Armor Penetration stat that will counter True Armor stat.
Ralanr15 votes[deleted]
Velzard of Koz12 votesGeez, too serious. I suppose I am dumb. Very dumb. Like a wood.
Ralanr11 votesNo worries. I'm wood V dumb.
SoryInAdvance2 votesthat is honestly the dumbest idea i've ever heard
Melvear15 votes-------joke------>
both of you
SoryInAdvance3 votesIf that was a joke it wasn't funny at all...
Velzard of Koz18 votesYes indeed it wasn't meant to be serious. If it didn't make you laugh, it's okay, it wasn't supposed to create standing ovation. However saying something "isn't funny at all" "is" funny itself as what is funny is fully subjective. I will now have to live my miserable life knowing I didn't make you out of 8 billions people on this Earth laugh and that shall haunt me in my dreams for sure.
Scary Door22 votesI don't "hate" tanks, but what they have become in League is not what a tank should be.
Damage creep has made it so that tanks can easily out-damage melee fighters/carries late game. I've used 3-4 spell rotations as a mage against a tank and they survived while still managing to blow up one of my carries in the fight. Tanks SHOULD be able to absorb copious amounts of damage, yes, but the trade-off should ALWAYS be that they lose damage in doing so.
Almost every tank in League of Legends is capable of blowing up a carry even if they build absolutely no damage. Early game, I'm fine with it---high base damage helps get tanks through the laning phase, but their scaling should be low if not completely pitiful.
And herein lies the tug of war on the Boards...
Some people believe tanks should be utterly garbage through the game and only capable of soaking up damage in teamfights... others think tanks should outscale damage/carries late game. Both ends of that spectrum are absurd and would lead to a completely irrelevant class of champion or games that last 90 minutes respectively.
Ralanr19 votesI don't think nor do I even believe that tanks outscale carries late game.
Damage creep hurt carries in the long run. The defensive boost next patch might solve this problem.
OneMinuteDeen10 votesThis.
I've seen videos about the tank meta and how boring people thought it was. But for me, it was a wet dream. This is what tanks should really be in my opinion: damage sponges. They take all the damage without dying, while dealing little damage. This is what a tank should be. But because people found that boring, we now have these big looking champs that are getting shredded by adc in seconds, but can deal massive amounts of damage.
Limrick6 votesLol, go play like 3 games of HotS, and you will find new appreciation for the tanks in League. Their tanks are twice as bulky and hit twice as hard.
RiotRiot Ellarian70 votesLeans forward angrily in rocking chair Back in my day, getting one shot meant you got Deathfire Grasped by an LB in a quarter of second...
Captain Aishi8 votesback in my day, DFG's active had ap scaling so veigar could one shot anyone with just the item active!
RiotRiot Ellarian38 votesHaha, yeah, he'd one shot someone with his ult and then a 2nd person with DFG -_-
Man I have a really unhealthy sense of nostalgia for old League of Legends...
Malicious Metal10 votesTo be fair.
Back then League was more of a "game" and less of a "competitive Sport"
RiotRiot Ellarian9 votesWhat's the difference to your mind? I'm genuinely curious.
Malicious Metal12 votesBack in the day there were a lot of things that were objectively overpowered and unhealthy, yet people didn't really seem to care an awful lot about it.
We had 90% ban rate Kassadin, yet nobody played him in normals. There was stuff like AP YI and Tryndamere, DFG one shots and overall the game didn't really seem to be based around actually winning and more about just having fun and messing around.
Nowadays Ranked and Normals are pretty much the same and you don't feel ranked being more professional or more tryhardy.
IMO the game was more streamlined once you guys at Riot figured out a design compass on what to orient yourself when designing your game. Overall the way the game is supported/handled and everything feeling more professional is what makes me feel it has become more like a sport and not something quirky and weird like it used to be in its original form.
Or maybe I'm just looking at it through rose-tinted goggles, it's been almost five years now since I started playing.
BeatzBoyFTW7 votes[{quoted}](name=Riot Mantikles,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RKPl0PAM,comment-id=0016,timestamp=2017-04-29T07:17:49.948+0000)
Leans forward angrily in rocking chair Back in my day, getting one shot meant you got Deathfire Grasped by a
in a quarter of second...
FTFY
Ormylar3 votesThere's no DFG in this one but it still sums up LeBlanc. It never gets old for me:
RiotRiot Ellarian7 votesHaha yep, that's the exact clip I think of every time :D
Sahn Uzal62 votes
Stands still and Right clicks
Lands 2 full spell rotations with a fully charged Q
''ADC in 2k17 LUL''
Spoofghoul19 votesbe carefull you might actually die before your Q is fully charged
tanks 2k17 LUUUUL
Glory ln Death17 votesShen places dodge zone on Sion
"CAN'T EVEN SCRATCH ME!"
Mecha MaIphite40 votes 
"wow full tank build does so much dmg"
Big Lincoln11 votesTIL from a silver player that Illaoi builds 
"mostly tank" items
The Deckowner16 votesIDK what carries expect when they try 1v1 a fed tank with no lifesteal.
Ralanr8 votesTo kill everything. At least that's what I think whenever I play a damage character.
"I must kill everyone"
Big Lincoln19 votes
"let's get in range"
"thanks"
OHminus3 votesYou could build Cho like a tank, but why would you even do that when you could
Mistress Madoka14 votesWhy go
When you could go
morris14 votesWhy not both.
Ralanr51 votesSo many of those aren't even tanks.
Garen: Juggernaut Illaoi: Juggernaut Mundo: Juggernaut Nasus: Juggernaut Darius: Juggernaut
I don't expect Instalok to be exactly accurate though. They are entertainers after all.
Silly Neeko5 votesSo many of those aren't even tanks.
Garen: Juggernaut Illaoi: Juggernaut Mundo: Juggernaut Nasus: Juggernaut Darius: Juggernaut
I don't expect Instalok to be exactly accurate though. They are entertainers after all.
Juggernauts were almost exclusively considered "off-tanks" for a long while before the term Juggernaut was formed. They often were the tanks of the team and had as much health and resistances as regular tanks....... The only difference really is that Juggernauts give up more hard CC and team protection, and gain more damage than regular tanks.
Your commentary was not needed and not appriciated seeing as you commented just to slam them because they are "entertainers" and you view them as wrong. Who cares? Its a good song and it fits with the theme of the thread.
Critmaster Garen25 votesJuggernauts were almost exclusively considered "off-tanks" for a long while before the term Juggernaut was formed. They often were the tanks of the team and had as much health and resistances as regular tanks....... The only difference really is that Juggernauts give up more hard CC and team protection, and gain more damage than regular tanks.
Your commentary was not needed and not appriciated seeing as you commented just to slam them because they are "entertainers" and you view them as wrong. Who cares? Its a good song and it fits with the theme of the thread.
before the term "juggernaut" became official, they were commonly referred to as bruisers.
only new people to the game refferred to them as tanks, as they couldnt make out the difference. basically just like today.
500000000000000017 votesI think off tank was a pretty common term, referring to anyone tanky enough to be a frontline presence.
Automated Riven5 votesBut years ago the phrase off tank was understood to be not a tank. Malphite with no damage was a tank. A scarner with triforce was not a tank. He was an off tank. Or a bruiser. The problem is that off tank build are being considered tank builds when they just are not.
Sraeg201310 votesIn other words:
For an off-tank, tankiness is a means to an end. For a tank, tankiness is the end.
Blåbæret1 votesSo many of those aren't even tanks.
Garen: Juggernaut Illaoi: Juggernaut Mundo: Juggernaut Nasus: Juggernaut Darius: Juggernaut
I don't expect Instalok to be exactly accurate though. They are entertainers after all.
Doesn't really matter what they technically are when they function as tanks regardless. 
shouldn't be able to build BC and delete the entire champion rooster. Arguably he doesn't even need BC to do what he does.
You build tank - you're a tank. Arguing otherwise is just of the same nature as today's bureaucracy riddles, i.e bullshit justfication.
Ralanr13 votesDoesn't really matter what they technically are when they function as tanks regardless.
Except you know...they don't beyond being hard to kill.
MavenSong11 votesJugs: Damage Tanks: Ton of cc
It really isnt rocket science xD
Blåbæret1 votesExcept you know...they don't beyond being hard to kill.
They're tanks. Doesn't matter what you imagine in your head. Tank ekko, tank shaco, tank fizz - they're all tanks. That is how they function within a game. You can argue semantics all you want, it won't change the fact that they're tanks. Tank is a function and is separated from from the tank class (which just happens to be called tanks). The fact is that most champs can be built in different ways.
But I suppose in your head a full lethality J4 is a tank as well even though he just changed himself into an assassin.
Ralanr11 votesThey're tanks. Doesn't matter what you imagine in your head. Tank ekko, tank shaco, tank fizz - they're all tanks. That is how they function within a game. You can argue semantics all you want, it won't change the fact that they're tanks. Tank is a function and is separated from from the tank class (which just happens to be called tanks). The fact is that most champs can be built in different ways.
No, no, and no. I've explained this enough today that I don't feel the need to explain it again.
But I suppose in your head a full lethality J4 is a tank as well even though he just made himself an assassin.
No, he's a diver.
Blåbæret1 votesWhat matters is their function, not their technical classification. Keep on arguing semantics.
J4 is a tank lul. Stay wrong, buddy.
Ralanr10 votesWhat matters is their function, not their technical classification. Keep on arguing semantics.
J4 is a tank lul. Stay wrong, buddy.
https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/developer-corner/3A5uuBw7-champion-subclass-list
Divers Vi Xin Zhao Nocturne Pantheon Jarvan Wukong Warwick Renekton Elise Hecarim Lee Sin Irelia Aatrox Evelynn Diana
No u.
edit: J4 hasn't actually been played like a tank in ages. He's mainly been used as a heavy burst fighter.
Blåbæret1 votesAs I said, J4 is a tank. Some pointless link with meaningless subclasses won't change jack.
Stay wrong, buddy.
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