In my last 5 champ selects, I got a troll every time?

Linda de Mol·Aug 10, 2019·3 votes·4,327 views

This all happened in Ranked solo/duo queue.

I have some client issues so I'm testing ranked champ selects on my alt accounts, I test if it freezes with different pc settings and then I dodge the champ select.

I did this 5 times on different moments, and in all 5 champ selects I got a troll?

"Give me mid or I run it down" "Dont pick Vel supp or I go troll" "if someone goes 0/3/0 I go afk"

And all stuff like that. What the fuk? I mean, I would dodge anyway, but still ? What's going on? A person like this in every champ select ? =l if this would happen on my main account I would feel really shitty.

11 Comments

Baby GhoulAug 10, 20191 votes

Can ADC mains elaborate on why they hate Velkoz support so much? I've seen this on the enemy team before too. This guy AFK'd because of it.

Personally I hate facing him as a support main. Nothing bannable of course, especially in this bot lane meta. Yuumi Pyke

I guess a lot of ADC mains don't take the time to learn what's going on with the support role.

I main Soraka and I still get people who ask me why I take summoner 21 and not summoner 14 , and a few have asked me why I don't take heal at level 1 or build item 3083 ...

Sometimes it's scary to see what's going on in this game.

1000 AP One ShótAug 10, 20191 votes

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Can ADC mains elaborate on why they hate support so much? I've seen this on the enemy team before too. This guy AFK'd because of it.

Vel'koz support steals all your kills. Thats the main reason.

SmyrageAug 10, 20191 votes

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Can ADC mains elaborate on why they hate support so much? I've seen this on the enemy team before too. This guy AFK'd because of it.

Personally I hate facing him as a support main. Nothing bannable of course, especially in this bot lane meta.

I guess a lot of ADC mains don't take the time to learn what's going on with the support role.

I main and I still get people who ask me why I take and not , and a few have asked me why I don't take heal at level 1 or build ...

Sometimes it's scary to see what's going on in this game.

Because of the same reasons noone likes mage supports: they usually don't provide any help to the ADC other than poke and damage and maybe a little CC. If the matchup is unfavourable for your ADC in terms of laning and the only way for your ADC to scale well is taking kills, then you are putting the ADC into a disadvantage, when you take the kills. Also, mage supports have the tendency to completely mess up the lane control, because they hit the CS with their abilities.

Don't misunderstand me, I'd rather have a Vel'koz support then an incompetent enchanter, but it is what it is: they don't belong there, because they were supposed to be played on midlane. ADCs need items and they need gold for it. If they don't get it, they can really fall behind. Riot kind of gutted the ADCs so they have become much more reliant on a good support. A bad support usually mean that the lane is lost. I'd say currently bot lane is 75% decided on the Support and 25% on the ADC, because right now mage supports outdamage most ADCs and item 3303 makes them scale really well.

It's kind of the game's fault that intended supports (real supports; not you Pyke ) are less viable. At least enchanters were supposed to negate pokes, but shielding and healing just requires way too much mana than the enchanter can afford, whereas mage supports don't run out of mana from the pokes.

Daddy AntsAug 10, 20191 votes

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Can ADC mains elaborate on why they hate support so much? I've seen this on the enemy team before too. This guy AFK'd because of it.

Because he and other mage supports bring nothing to the lane except damage.

Hell I'd rather have an Orianna Support over a Vel'Koz tbh.

Least she brings a shield, resistances steroid etc.

UrarakaAug 10, 20192 votes

Blitzcrank Nautilus Pyke Galio Leona are for the hard engage and other than heal from item 3302 item, do they provide shield or buffs? Do ADC players say that these champions are in support for hard engage and how they don't give shields.

Mages are played in support for damage they bring. Different mage supports have different characteristics- Lux Morgana can shield, while others are mostly for damage - Xerath Neeko Velkoz . Interesting thing about the mage supports is that they can do damage, be useful to team even when bot lane is lost. The five champions I mentioned first are all melee and to procc relic shield, they are often in between ADC and opponent minions, so they get the attention of opponents which doesn't punish the bad positioning of ADC players. But mage supports are usually near ADC, mostly positioned better and safer than ADC which means that it is easy to punish the ADC if they position themselves badly.

Other than not babysitting ADC, mage supports can 1v2 and get a kill themselves. Isn't this good for the team? Yes; but ADC players consider this as bad. Many games I have seen ADC players doing nothing, auto-attacking minions, while I go 1v2 to poke opponents and get their hp down. When I am about to get kill, the afk ADC suddenly jumps into fight/flashes into fight to get the kill. If they get the kill, its not a problem:I too don't bother because they get gold and because they don't farm properly, I leave kill gold to them.

But if I get the kill ( Zyra plants or Neeko Q or Lux R) even when I did like 85-90% of the damage, it becomes a ks as per the ADC. For Velkoz its his passive- which causes true damage. I have seen players having same issue, as he can deal lot of damage and getting kills due to passive. This somehow annoys adc because they consider every kill near them is theirs and constantly waste time in writing in chat blaming supp for ks; if they actually show that effort for farming properly or positioning correctly, we won't be seeing bot lane feeding often.

Regarding your case, the ADC players generally prefer summoner 14 (or summoner 3 ) because of the damage it brings. Soraka starting Q (or even E) is always better I guess, as she is there for that annoying low cd Q :P Haven't played much of Soraka, but does she reach 3000 hp for item 3083 passive?

UrarakaAug 10, 20191 votes

If you're going to play Velkoz or any mage support on your main, you're going to come across such trolls; idk which elo your alt accounts are, but I guess they're at or around silver as that is the place where ADC players always cry for picking mages.

I check players profiles during champ select and often see Yasuo Irelia Riven Ezreal players having poor cs/min or bad kda , kp, win ratio-but no one actually says don't pick these champions or any such champion for a player with poor stats; but often I see ADC players complain about support picking mages even though they're stronger currently. In my case no matter how good I am with mage supports, like 20% of games I have the ADC player feeding and trolling+wasting time on writing in chat that game is lost, gg , bad /no supp: in reality, they don't respect pings or my chat for gank or back off or dont push and go blindly pushing 1v2, 1v3 to feed.

LPelican Aug 10, 20191 votes

i always cry inside when someone hovers lux support or yasuo mid

UrarakaAug 10, 20191 votes

tbh Lux supp isn't bad; if played well she can beat any support safely through poking and shielding. She can build item 3174 item 3504 and still can peel so much.

Daddy AntsAug 10, 20191 votes

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tbh supp isn't bad; if played well she can beat any support safely through poking and shielding. She can build and still can peel so much.

It's not "bad" but it's no where near as strong as it used to be.

LPelican Aug 11, 20191 votes

how about when they start dorans ring 2 pots say oops accident get the support item on their third back then build full ap ludens echo bs

ShunTheWitchAug 11, 20191 votes

Afaik with a redeption upgraded spelltheif and some other item that gives health Soraka should be able to reach 3k for the passive, but its only ever a last or 4th item for me, game never reaches that point honestly, only reaches that point when I'm on Vel'koz.

A midlane main that Im guessing got autofilled adc said not to taunt because Vel'koz is a "noob champion" When did noobs have to aim Three (technically 4 counting q reactivation) abilities and an ult that requires you to channel and be vulnerable xD