ah but He has counter play. I can silence the ult with crows or fear. I can kite the voids the attack. Now with greaves and lee where is the counter play? You dodge lee Q so he can ward hop/flash/root/ult then q again because you can't move? Or how about smoke screen so you can't see greave 100 to 0 you in one combo. Or he you can never kill them because they can run and get away once the fight doesn't go there way.
I know its not like these champs heal for more then my drain with there auto attacks. I would much rather see Malz in every game heck put two in every game than greaves or lee.
What did the say in the EU LCS... yep ban Lee and they won the game...... think about that statement.