When Death's Dance was introduced in 5.22, this is what Riot said on its purpose & who it was for:

TotalJerk·6/29/2019, 6:18:10 AM·1 votes·1,444 views
Patch 5.22 notes

"Lifesteal as a stat for champions that primarily use abilities has always been an interesting space to work in, but often failed because the 'casters' in question lack the inherent durability to really start draining and instead just die on the spot. Death's Dance instead provides 'pseudo-durability' - just enough to give the user time to get their sustain engine going, but forcing that lifesteal to work overtime so as not to succumb to their accumulated debt. Can you outrace your own death, or will you just dance around it?"

Basically, it was intended buy squishy AD casters a little bit of extra time to actually use the healing to survive if they can respond with enough damage output of their own within that extra time granted to them. Unfortunately, squishy AD casters are not who is buying this item. It is being primarily abused by bruisers who for the most part have tools and items such that they shouldn't even need an item like this. Currently the only truly squishy AD champion that buys this item reasonably often is Graves with the occasional Master Yi or Katarina.

12 Comments

Critmaster Garen6/30/2019, 9:09:28 PM2 votes

when they introduced item 3053 they made it to be specifically an item for juggernauts who lack the mobility or kit inbuilt tools to dodge teamfight aoe and their only way to survive their own win condition (getting into the middle of the enemy team) is to live through it.

then riot fucked with it by turning the base ad increase into bonus ad.

guess whos using the item now and is abusing it against juggernauts. highly mobile divers and skirmishers who are supposed to be squishy and susceptible to burst, while using their kit inbuilt damage negation and mobility as evasion tools.

i see champions like Yasuo Fiora Riven Camille Irelia and others like them (even assassins like rengar on occation) running around with steraks gage, becoming impossible to duel with a juggernaut after a certain stage of the game, become better versions of juggernauts, and it makes me mad every time i see it.

ThisName1sDumb6/30/2019, 9:48:58 PM2 votes

I mean, Riven builds death's dance, doesn't she? I'd say she falls into the category of a squishy ad caster.

[{quoted}](name=Critmaster Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=REXalZvv,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-06-30T21:09:28.473+0000) then riot fucked with it by turning the base ad increase into bonus ad.

Wait, how did Riot changing steracks from increasing base ad to being bonus ad based on base ad make it more usable by divers and skirmishers? I thought all it did was make it not boost things that scale with base ad, like item 3078. Am I missing something? Thanks

Minimac20006/29/2019, 8:01:40 AM2 votes

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, this is exactly why people hate everyone who uses the term "bruisers" it's so non descriptive. Ad casters... so people like Illaoi Aatrox Riven Irelia Pantheon MonkeyKing Renekton I missed a few but you get the point... all of these fall under the really awful classification that is the pseudo class of bruiser. In fact the only non-bruiser ad caster I can think of is Zed and they definitely didn't make the item for him lol

Ps if we are talking about abuse cases of DD look at *cough Kaisa

BeatinWarDrumz6/30/2019, 10:51:35 PM1 votes

what bruisers are buying DD?

HeresyHorus6/29/2019, 6:00:30 PM1 votes

DD will be abused by all ad champs... Why? ... cuz auto attacks scale with 100% tad, and all champs have auto attacks. Even kata uses it cuz her ad ratios on her spells are huge. It is an op all rounder item just because Riot decided to make spells that scales with the same thing autos scale with.

If mages had ad ratios on thier spells I would gladly use ad items and just go with void+sorc boots for the pen only and be 2x stronger than a normal ap mage.

Beerstein6/29/2019, 7:09:42 AM1 votes

Urgot Nonsense, I have a squishy belly!

P4ppino6/29/2019, 7:07:19 AM1 votes

It's a good situational item for ad assassins.