5-2-0 Riven flashes into my 5-3-4 Vayne

Yenn·Aug 22, 2015·5 votes·728 views

100 to 0'd before the stun wears off, in the middle of Condemn animation. This is okay how?

18 Comments

SEKAIAug 22, 20156 votes

So you get deleted by a melee fighter who specialises in mashing buttons and dunking damage, when you're playing the usual squishy arse ADC, AFTER you mess up positioning and get gap-closed?

Yeah okay. I say nothing new here?

Don't get me wrong, I get furious when looking at Riven's broken win sometimes too but harping on her in this particular case is just a tad too hypocritical.

Not to mention your kda aren't far off from each other either, Riven has 2.5 and you have 3 (and the margin is 4 assists which isn't hard to chase back with CS considering most Riven get Hydra anyway). So you should expect this kind of situation.

O Fallen ScholarAug 22, 20154 votes

Yes. You were just careless.

FadedpfAug 22, 20154 votes

Riven literally shits on all ADC's, even though Vayne is stupidly OP she cant Kite Rivens mobility and CC unless you have good reaction time

BluePolarizerAug 22, 20153 votes

If Riven doesn't have Flash, an optimally played Vayne can kill Riven while taking zero damage. The key is to condemn her 3rd Q and not blow it on her E while keeping distance with tumble.

BronzoidAug 22, 20154 votes

It's not. Riven is not ok. Only idiots think she is.

colesyAug 22, 20154 votes

imagine that, an assassin can assassinate

WHO WOULD HAVE GUESSED

Posui GartAug 22, 20153 votes

Fed assassin oneshots ADC? Yeah, its ok

Knight SoIaire Aug 22, 20151 votes

riven is a fighter thou

just because someone deals damage that doesnt mean he is an assasin

if that would be true then darius and sion would be assasins too

Posui GartAug 22, 20151 votes

She has no def items usually, and most of her damage is burst. And in this meta even tanks can oneshot ADC(maybe not that fast)

Knight SoIaire Aug 22, 20151 votes

just because you hp disappears fast it inst burst with her cooldowns riven easily can be classified as a champion who deals sustained damage

and she gets defense from building offense ... her kit is just made that way so she doesnt need to get defensive items

owerall she is rightfully classified as a fighter she just snowbals so easy that she can oneshot people

AtheosisXAug 22, 20152 votes

She's a fighter/assassin hybrid. She has extremely high burst damage, high mobility, and doesn't build defensive items. That's pretty much the definition of an assassin. Just because she's also built to brawl doesn't mean she isn't partially an assassin.

XonraAug 22, 20153 votes

I always laugh when ADCs die, and their ranting explanation basically tells you:

they were in melee range with a melee carry
were cc'd
can't understand adcs are squishy

Realistically you shouldn't have tried brawling with Riven of all people in melee range <_< She has cc, a shield, tons of movement, so why even be that close to her, and are surprised she wrecked you....in melee range.

I don't really see where the confusion with this situation is.

I mean, why don't I complain about chasing Vayne with say, Udyr, and be surprised she could kite me, do so much damage, and condemned me into a wall and killed me. Do you see how that would sound silly?

BeatzBoyFTWAug 22, 20152 votes

I don't know man. Just....git gud I suppose.

SwapShadowsAug 22, 20152 votes

because she can unleash her entire combo almost instantly?

thought this was obvious.

kikiandcocoAug 22, 20152 votes

Riven is not broken. You scrubs

ShénzhìAug 22, 20152 votes

I agree Riven's Flash should be momentarily limited while she's ability-spam bursting. She can already distance close effectively. Don't need Flash to piss people off more. (There's other champion(s) whose Spells are denied during ability. Tahm Kench cannot Flash with enemy inside him)
I also propose that the knock-up of [Q] slightly nudges the player out. (like 5.16 Darius Apprehend now bounces the enemy champ forward after being pulled)