Almost nothing works on Malz voidlings.

Photos of Ghosts·Jan 18, 2016·2 votes·1,265 views

They are not considered a part of his kit for any purpose. They don't count as damage dealt by him, neither spell damage nor autoattack damage, so no form of vampirism (not even the absolute one from Gunblade) works. For the same reason, they don't count for any offensive Keystone (Thunderlord, Deathfire, Grasp, Stormraider...). I don't think they apply Black Cleaver stacks (they do gain the ArPen tho, through their passive stat conversion), nor any on-hit or spell effect.

AD Malz is so fun, can we please make it more consistent? Even with weaker scalings than on live, just having any value from all the passives you have to buy with the items.

9 Comments

Void NargacugaJan 18, 20162 votes

They do apply the Black Cleaver armor shred. Yes, Gunblade DOES work on their damage. Not sure on the Keystones honestly. I use these 3 items often on him: item 3116 item 3146 item 3071 and the Voidlings benefit from each one.

Photos of GhostsJan 18, 20161 votes

I tried it. Gunblade does NOT work, it works on the E you use to control them. But have them hit things idly, and they won't regen you, which means that the actual voidling part isn't taken into account.

Photos of GhostsJan 18, 20161 votes

And Rylai's has been recently added as an exception to every summon, making AP Malz better EVEN AT VOIDLINGS than ad Malz.

TheDiffJan 18, 20161 votes

The voidlings count as stacks for Fervor. But idk why you would take that on him. if they apply stacks of fervor then they may apply stacks of black cleaver. It counts as an AA from malz if i remember correcty, but i can be wrong.

Photos of GhostsJan 18, 20161 votes

They count as lane minions. If they kill an enemy as idle, you don't even get an assist.

TheDiffJan 19, 20161 votes

yes you do. I main malz It stacks SOME on hit effects. It counts as YOUR damage because it is part of you and your kit. Same with dmg done to towers, voidlings will count as your dmg.

Photos of GhostsJan 19, 20161 votes

No on-hit at all, death recap calls them "[team color] fighter minion", they don't proc any on-hit or on-spell except Rylai's that has been recoded as a exception during the AP items pass, they don't even heal you off of Gunblade.

IlliadJan 18, 20161 votes

Lets leave it be [slayer-jinx-unamused] He's supposed to be an AP/Mage most of the year and they zone in on the Malefic visions, zoning and giving him strong lane push (WHICH IS HIS INTENT MIND YOU) and AD during URF, lets not overcomplicate Malzahar who is perfectly fine as he is [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Photos of GhostsJan 18, 20161 votes

It's not "overcomplicate". It's consistency with other summons. HIs voidlings are considered as lane minions and won't give you an assist on their own. And AD Malz exists and has a different niche and playstyle than A Malz, it just doesn't get advantage from the items's passives due to lazy coding.