Brand "support" is the reason why supports shouldn't be given tons of xp and gold
did anymore watch that game vs G2? Brand "support" was soloing Ezreal and their backline every single fight
did anymore watch that game vs G2? Brand "support" was soloing Ezreal and their backline every single fight
Or maybe Brand is just broken?
a cpl other "supports" do the same shit.

high base damages and high scalings. 100-0 your adc with 30 ap. in the case of vel koz he just needs to hit R
brand however. is just broken. along with vel koz. zyra has much more apparent weaknesses. brand and vel koz are strong early and scale too well. zyra doesn't scale all that well with ap
supports AREN'T given more XP and gold? Wut?
Deff not as much as mid lane and top lane. ESPECIALLY in gold supports usually get the least gold in the game wtf are you on about?
Yea, mage supports are strong. but there is a weakpoint to their strength its that they can't protect their ADC as well as say a Braum, or a Leona could. Lux support cannot protect her ADC nearly as well as Braum or Tahm Kench could.
So focus their ADC go so ham on them the support can't possibly stop you.
This all being said I do personally think Brand is a bit broken he's really strong.
??? Do you even understand the title? Its aimed towards the support circlejerk claiming that supports needs to be given more xp and gold and we see it in this game a mage support thats underleveled soloing enemy backline.
??? Do you even understand the title? Its aimed towards the support circlejerk claiming that supports needs to be given more xp and gold and we see it in this game a mage support thats underleveled soloing enemy backline.
I'm a support main. I've been a support main for close to 2,000 games now this is the role I know best. Most of my friends lists consists of other supports, and ADC's. And I've never even once heard a support say they need to be given more XP and Gold.
Sure, a support might complain about having no items now and then. But true support mains someone who's played the role for a long time know they don't need 6 items to save their carry's life. I know I don't. At level 2 I can probably kill both the enemy laners if my ADC is on the same page as me and I don't need a fukin warmogs to do it.
I personally think if I was given even a fraction more gold bot lane would be unstoppable once it got rolling. Don't give supports more gold or more XP we don't need either of them.
That being said if you want to give my ADC more gold go right the fuck ahead :D
Look at the thread I linked it was people complaining about support exp.
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I'm a support main. I've been a support main for close to 2,000 games now this is the role I know best. Most of my friends lists consists of other supports, and ADC's. And I've never even once heard a support say they need to be given more XP and Gold.
Sure, a support might complain about having no items now and then. But true support mains someone who's played the role for a long time know they don't need 6 items to save their carry's life. I know I don't. At level 2 I can probably kill both the enemy laners if my ADC is on the same page as me and I don't need a fukin warmogs to do it.
I personally think if I was given even a fraction more gold bot lane would be unstoppable once it got rolling. Don't give supports more gold or more XP we don't need either of them.
That being said if you want to give my ADC more gold go right the fuck ahead :D
As a fellow Support main, I agree with you. A true support would be able to offer tons of utility to their team, without being item reliant.
But that assumes that your filling the role of a support, (which is where the issues arise.) The fact that Supports don't get those items, means they usually lack the ability to Carry a game. Which is part of the reason why people don't like playing supports. (Cause they can't carry from the support position.)
In OP's stance. He points to a rather clutch pick, where you have a high damage mage, "who can play support." But his actual damage in the support role, comes from the fact that his kit works better in the duo lane. (Combining that with solo lane gold/XP, would make him over the roof. )
Which begs the question, can we support high damage mage-supports, who (like Brand) get a lot of their power just from being in the Duo lane? My initial guess would be not, because anyone with that amount of duo lane pressure AND damage, could easily take the position as a alternate bot laner. (And they would end up getting balanced as such.)
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supports AREN'T given more XP and gold? Wut?
Deff not as much as mid lane and top lane. ESPECIALLY in gold supports usually get the least gold in the game wtf are you on about?
Yea, mage supports are strong. but there is a weakpoint to their strength its that they can't protect their ADC as well as say a Braum, or a Leona could. Lux support cannot protect her ADC nearly as well as Braum or Tahm Kench could.
So focus their ADC go so ham on them the support can't possibly stop you.
This all being said I do personally think Brand is a bit broken he's really strong.
I agree. it's the champion speaking, not the role. you hear those koreans going elise support and just roflstomping everything with her ridiculous base damages and utility?
This thread was response to this one http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/36fdE6Y3-neither-support-hits-level-18-until-66-minutes-into-the-game
Zyra "support"
outdamages her whole team combined
Nah give more xp and gold so we have to face 2 mid lane mages every game xd -gameplay support circlejerk
Brand is one of the strongest teamfighters in the game..of course he should be focused if he has some damage items.
tru
brand isnt a support , he is a mage... he is meant to do damage.... people play him as support cuz they dont wanna be the focused of the enemy team and "carry"
His role on the team is support which means being underleveled and has minimum item with low combat stats. Would you call Ahri that builds adc a ap carry? rofl
i didnt call brand the ap carry... i said people play him (and other mage supports and go damage ) cuz they dont wanna be the focus of an enemy team and try to carry as a "support"
whatever i dont want to argue about that this thread is about why it makes sense for supports to not get massive share of xp and gold on the team
there is no argument
He was fed. Killing targets with no resistance while having 2 ap item seems very reasonable.
And brand's rework was very overtuned tbh.
Blows up a stacked nasus and amumu as a support.
BECAUSE I'm SUPPORTING you see, you guys can have the other 3 shmucks and win it for me.
brand supp sucks, you need a counter? pick braum
brand has no ability to solo ezreal, who might in fact be his hardest counter, if you think that's even remotely possible you should get new eyes