Can Yasuo get some actual counterplay for casters at mid lane?

Yenn··9 votes·3,047 views

You basically can't interact with him, at all, while he AFK farms to his power spike, thanks to Windwall being up on every wave and being able to clear it in seconds.

I'm actually clueless as to how he's been left like this for so long.

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SEKAI8 votes

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I'm actually clueless as to how he's been left like this for so long.

We all know the reason, or at least a lot of us do. It's just that we don't want to mention it, as once we do the thread may as well be dead even if it isn't wrong.

But I'm going to say it anyway, at least only this post would be shot to death and not the entire thread. Hopefully.

Yasuo is left for this long because League is filled with people who want to believe they have skill.

CrazyMonkeyCZ1 votes

Yes please, show me your acc, where you are abusing this "braindead" champ, that doesn't require any skill.

SEKAI2 votes

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Yes please, show me your acc, where you are abusing this "braindead" champ, that doesn't require any skill.

https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/platinum/plus/champion/Yasuo/graphs/

Countless people already do. I don't need to participate myself.

Spicy Rice1 votes

Ah yes, the time honored argument of "x is so easy that I don't have to prove it"

SEKAI3 votes

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Ah yes, the time honored argument of "x is so easy that I don't have to prove it"

I did prove it. I just said that I don't have to have my own data and using myself as my own guinea pig, when there are already so many data lying around waiting to be used, which then I showed the said data.

Not to mention, the fact they were asking me for a anecdotal data is bad research spirit itself.

SEKAI7 votes

http://www.op.gg/champion/yasuo/statistics/mid (Head to the "Counters" tab)

Looking though Yasuo's matchups, Yasuo has ranging from high to EXTREMELY high lane kill rate against his lane opponent for basically all matchups against mages, including those who theoretically is supposed to hard-counter Yasuo like Malz (Yasuo has 62.86% lane kill rate over) and Xerath (Yasuo has 65.43% lane kill rate over).

The only mages who escape this fate are Zoe and Orianna. Zoe because she's fucking Zoe, and Orianna is the safest mid lane mage in the entire game. And no, I don't count LeBlanc as a mage.

Outside of assassins who has higher lane kill rate over Yasuo and someone like Jayce who just owns all aspect of laning, Yasuo basically has no peer in mid lane. And even then, assassins like Kassadin (44.85% lane kill rate against Yasuo) and Katarina (34.21% lane kill rate against Yasuo) would still disagree if you were to take it as a generalisation that assassins collectively have an upperhand over Yasuo.

B-but, we can just acknowledge that Yasuo is a lane bully and surely his power only goes down and his presence never strong after the laning phase? Lmao, what you smokn'?

And people think this is okay.

TitanAnteus2 votes

No worries, when he's forced to build static shiv in the crit itemization instead of going PD, he'll stop having the bonus MS from PD so his engages are gonna get less safe. Static's also gonna eat the health of the minions he'd want to dash to. Not only that but getting 100% crit's gonna be 100G more expensive too.

The crit itemization changes are pretty strong nerfs to Yasuo.

Netorare3 votes

Yasuo is one champ that is not allowed to have counterplay since he counters more than half of the champion rooster. His E+Q knockup should be fucking removed so he finally gets to use his brain to land a skillshot, windwall should get 2 bars of hp or some sort of counterPLAY and it should not block ultimates what so ever.

The thigh guy4 votes

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Yasuo is one champ that is not allowed to have counterplay since he counters more than half of the champion rooster. His E+Q knockup should be fucking removed so he finally gets to use his brain to land a skillshot, windwall should get 2 bars of hp or some sort of counterPLAY and it should not block ultimates what so ever.

Or atleast make the windwall a one way deal so he can’t just juggle in the middle of it and be immune to 90% of shit in the game.

Yenn2 votes

Currently in game with a one trick Yasuo (1000+ ranked games) with <2 KDA, but 56% win rate. He also got banned out of Yasuo and is feeding, badly, while raging at the enemy team for banning Yasuo.

This kind of shows a massive problem with the champion.

kingDeDeDarius1 votes

Besides, why do people want this game to be so purely about mechanics rather than a balance of mechanics, macro, etc? This isn't a first person shooter lol, this is a MOBA. It's not a game type designed around pure mechanical play and these new champs who like yasuo, have it all (or simply have too many mechanics) are ruining the game

kingDeDeDarius1 votes

What I also don't understand is why he can charge his shield while being attacked. For instance, champs like malph and garen can't charge their Shields until X secs after being attacked by enemy champions. Yasuo just has to move around in a fight (LMAO as if it's hard to do...), more over his shield is merely a bonus passive, an extra on top of his stupid double crit chance passive. He can potentially get three Shields in a fight, one at beginning, one after running around, and one after ulting, not to mention his windwall and ability to dodge almost everything else with mobility, and his stupid ranged aoe q knockup that is actually an incredibly strong cc with engage, poke, and disengage potential. Like wtf, he has more cc than some supports and tanks, and it's on low CD, because no, using two Q's to get one tornado is not a long cool down or fair way of gaiting the ability

Yenn1 votes

Oh boy, currently laning against Yasuo as Vel'koz.

I forced him out of lane early, but now he's just wave clearing while covered by Windwall, so I can't stop him from farming or interact with him in any way. I'm basically just sitting here until someone rotates to mid lane, or he decides to roam to top/bottom and take the turret, because I'm too immobile to follow him and can't duel him, just like every other caster in the game.

Amazing.

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