So Riot...

Shahamut·Jul 5, 2019·5 votes·2,802 views

When can we expect some work to be done for Skarner? Its been a LONG time since we have had any conversation about him...

I am watching Tankier champions like Galio get damage buffs, Jayce getting a rank 5 330 damage nuke from range on an 8 second cooldown...

Things like RENEKTON getting a shield breaking ability, which, can I make a suggestion?

Instead of "breaks existing shields before other effects" why not:

"If Renekton's damage would not break through shields on the target, destroy the shield instead."

Still wrecks mega shielding, but doesn't completely invalidate champs with very small shields... Like Skarner...

Hey, Speaking of Skarner...

Please help?

"I miss my ~~kind~~ EVERYTHING..."

11 Comments

PyrosanJul 5, 20193 votes

Skarner's still a powerful pick if in the right hands, he's often played in the LCS from whenever I browse on some highlight clips so they're balancing him purely for LCS play - same with Shen

FrancisMuniJul 5, 20193 votes

Don't you see a problem when a character in a videogame is fine for the 100 people that are on the LCS but is completely useless for the 1.000.000 people that play in Solo Q? Besides, its not like the LCS is balanced anyway, so I don't know why Riot cares so much about him not being OP in it. This situation has dragged for over 4 years now. It would be completely fine for me to make that champion banned for the tournaments but decent in normal play. I don't know what kind of company prefers to suck the dick of the 20 or so LCS junglers over actually listen to the hundreds or even thousands of fans that play him.

PyrosanJul 5, 20193 votes

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Don't you see a problem when a character in a videogame is fine for the 100 people that are on the LCS but is completely useless for the 1.000.000 people that play in Solo Q? Besides, its not like the LCS is balanced anyway, so I don't know why Riot cares so much about him not being OP in it. This situation has dragged for over 4 years now. It would be completely fine for me to make that champion banned for the tournaments but decent in normal play. I don't know what kind of company prefers to suck the dick of the 20 or so LCS junglers over actually listen to the hundreds or even thousands of fans that play him.

They can't let LCS get stale as the LCS is what influences a lot of people to climb the ranked ladder, they have to oppress certain champions to the point of obscurity in normal play due to the very best being able to execute them in a certain way - I'm not saying I agree with the treatment but Skarner is playable in his current state obviously, there's just more optimal choices and that's what people primarily focus on

ShahamutJul 5, 20194 votes

The problem is that the juggernaut update and subsequent changes have destroyed what skarner players loved about his playstyle. Skarner used to be a sticky duelist with actual damage in his kit. Have you seen this guys numbers???

The highest tiers of play (including pros) typically dont even build sheen. Hes just a cc bot right now, and not a great one.

Get rid of the spire passive, they are poor gameplay design and mind share (riots words on mind share).

PyrosanJul 5, 20193 votes

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The problem is that the juggernaut update and subsequent changes have destroyed what skarner players loved about his playstyle. Skarner used to be a sticky duelist with actual damage in his kit. Have you seen this guys numbers???

The highest tiers of play (including pros) typically dont even build sheen. Hes just a cc bot right now, and not a great one.

Get rid of the spire passive, they are poor gameplay design and mind share (riots words on mind share).

I think the movement speed Spire's provide are what's making him somewhat prominent in competitive right now - along with his oppressive ultimate, free movement speed passive to help traverse the jungle is pretty useful but I agree, a mini-rework would be healthy for him.

All I know is they're doing Pantheon Next, maybe Skarner's somewhere on the list.

ShahamutJul 5, 20193 votes

The spires are too weak early to matter much. There are faster junglers with faster clears.

Ult is negated by qss and still has to reach melee range.

This is why you will only see him run predator and try to gank a bunch early before qss is picked up. Also doesn't do well into heavy kite comps.

FrancisMuniJul 5, 20193 votes

I personally vowed a long time ago to not buy RP or anything until he gets what he deserves. If every Skarner main did that, Riot may think about doing something, because they think with the wallet. #MakeSkarnerGreatAgain

ZephyrDrakeJul 5, 20192 votes

When skarner actually needs help he will get help. Skarner is not as weak as you think he is.

ShahamutJul 5, 20194 votes

I have 200+ games as Skarner toplane this season. I have a VERY good idea about how weak he is.

ZephyrDrakeJul 5, 20191 votes

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I have 200+ games as Skarner toplane this season. I have a VERY good idea about how weak he is.

You can be playing him since his inception and it would mean absolutely nothing. Skarner is not as weak as you think he is. Show me the stats that say that he is a weak champion.

ShahamutJul 6, 20194 votes

a 50% winrate and a 1.1% pickrate.

That means he is being played by what little is left of his player base and mains are only averaging a 50% winrate...

That is a statistical number you can have. As for numerical comparisons, just compare his base damage and shield values to say... Nautilus. Nautilus is a tank with as much if not better cc than Skarner. Comare him to Udyr, if you rather that, and tell me his dps is not way outclassed.

Skarner is numerically weak, (base stats, base damage/shield values, scaling is also bad) and also statistically weak (50% winrate on mains) Show me the stats that say he is anything BUT weak...?