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Subject 5·Sep 2, 2015·2 votes·394 views

Thanks Riot, for nerfing Janna. Seriously, she was like a really big problem and extremely toxic for the game. Support is a hard role to balance, and therefore nerfing Janna is one step closer to a better game overall. Even though she has no realistic means of self defense and aggression like Soraka, she manages to somehow peel for her adc. By removing her reactionary skill, her Q and making it a Sion Q for shits and giggles it is at last that champions like fizz, zed and Talon are capable of man handling the marksman with Janna around pre-6 and lategame it is pretty unrealistic to pop your ult before your marksman is dead anyways.

Again, I would like to thank the balancing team for nerfing Janna. The most toxic support in the bottom lane. Yes. Yeah. Uh huh. Yep.

"So what if I have literally everything in the game? Janna can like, push people away with a nerfed heal! Fucking OP piece of shit!"

(TerribleT) (The guy that created Thresh) "Well, to be fair. Janna has a shield."

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GorgannanSep 2, 20154 votes

Implying Soraka can protect herself and Janna can't.

Thresh has his problems, but don't act like Janna isn't doing what she does best while being one of the safest and easiest supports. Those two together always cause problems. It's why she's consistently over 52% win rate.

Her Q nerf won't affect her peel, it will affect AP janna's long range poke. When you're being chased, it won't make a difference. The ult was totally justified, it's a press one button and win the teamfight ability. It's hard enough to CC her out when it STARTS with your team getting blow away (in different directions.)

Make a thread with constructive criticisms on Thresh, but don't use him as a shield against nerfs on a VERY good support.

Just checked, and noticed Thresh has a 48% winrate Vs. Janna's 53.5. "But his pickrate is higher! That lowers his winrate!" She's still at 14% pickrate. They've done the math. Your pickrate basically lowers your winrate until you get higher than 10%, at which champions tend to be getting picked more by their mains and not fewer games with more people. He might be strong but that doesn't make her any less powerful.

PS: Not to mention the AD on her shield, like Nami, makes her almost as versatile as Thresh, being able to poke, all in, disengage. Get off the Thresh hate bandwagon and realize that he's popular the same reason Vayne is. Because people mistakenly believe that they're easy to carry with.

Subject 5Sep 2, 20151 votes

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Implying Soraka can protect herself and Janna can't.

Thresh has his problems, but don't act like Janna isn't doing what she does best while being one of the safest and easiest supports. Those two together always cause problems. It's why she's consistently over 52% win rate.

Her Q nerf won't affect her peel, it will affect AP janna's long range poke. When you're being chased, it won't make a difference. The ult was totally justified, it's a press one button and win the teamfight ability. It's hard enough to CC her out when it STARTS with your team getting blow away (in different directions.)

Make a thread with constructive criticisms on Thresh, but don't use him as a shield against nerfs on a VERY good support.

There is no reason to nerf Janna, she is not broken nor is she classifeid as OP

GorgannanSep 2, 20152 votes

53.5% winrate, 15% pickrate.

That's OP.

I classify her as OP.

Go ahead Riot.

It would be less obnoxious if she wasn't in the top 10 easiest champions. Her ult gives her a decent skill ceiling, but the floor is still underground.

Subject 5Sep 2, 20151 votes

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53.5% winrate, 15% pickrate.

That's OP.

I classify her as OP.

Go ahead Riot.

It would be less obnoxious if she wasn't in the top 10 easiest champions. Her ult gives her a decent skill ceiling, but the floor is still underground.

League of legends is a game of point and click. Annie takes a scale of skill believe it or not.

Amumu has a higher winrate for several seasons. So has warwick. Malphite Brand Ahri Xin Diana Garen Xin Heimer Malzahar Xin Zhao Warwick Darius Rammus Wukong Zyra 975 Vel'Koz Swain Jinx Blitzcrank Lux Annie Anivia Talon Galio Malphite Sona Taric Diana Tryndamere Kayle Leona Nami Soraka Xerath Twisted Fate Nautilus Vayne Sivir Braum Udyr Draven Volibear Karthus Shyvana Irelia Kennen Trundle Sejuani Nocturne Aatrox Elise Vi Kog'Maw Ashe Renekton Fiddlesticks

Your argument is invalid.

Subject 5Sep 2, 20151 votes

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League of legends is a game of point and click. Annie takes a scale of skill believe it or not.

Amumu has a higher winrate for several seasons. So has warwick. Malphite Brand Ahri Xin Diana Garen Xin Heimer Malzahar Xin Zhao Warwick Darius Rammus Wukong Zyra 975 Vel'Koz Swain Jinx Blitzcrank Lux Annie Anivia Talon Galio Malphite Sona Taric Diana Tryndamere Kayle Leona Nami Soraka Xerath Twisted Fate Nautilus Vayne Sivir Braum Udyr Draven Volibear Karthus Shyvana Irelia Kennen Trundle Sejuani Nocturne Aatrox Elise Vi Kog'Maw Ashe Renekton Fiddlesticks

Your argument is invalid.

17 natural supports exist in the game, and traditional supports are less than that number. Not a very big number to choose from.

Vayne	880	4800	36.13%	51.02%	12.04%	AD Carry	5/10/2011

Thresh 975 6300 31.24% 48.22% 1.15% Support 1/23/2013 Jinx 975 6300 28.77% 52.28% 0.26% AD Carry 10/10/2013 Tristana 585 1350 25.24% 48.2% 0.51% AD Carry 2/21/2009 Blitzcrank 790 3150 21.35% 52.21% 0.58% Support 9/2/2009 Leona 880 4800 20.93% 51.45% 0.17% Support 7/13/2011 Lee Sin 880 4800 20.18% 45.98% 1.4% Jungler 4/1/2011 Yasuo 975 6300 19.51% 49.3% 6.07% Middle Lane 12/13/2013 Morgana 585 1350 19.07% 49.71% 1.26% Support 2/21/2009 Ahri 880 4800 17.65% 53.98% 4.51% Middle Lane 12/14/2011 Riven 880 4800 17.39% 49.7% 17.94% Top Lane 9/14/2011 Garen 260 450 16.73% 54.86% 14.83% Top Lane 4/27/2010 Caitlyn 880 4800 16.32% 49.32% 0.06% AD Carry 1/4/2011 Annie 260 450 16.24% 51.91% 2.32% Support 2/21/2009 Xin Zhao 585 1350 15.74% 53.33% 0.45% Jungler 7/13/2010 Fizz 880 4800 15.15% 49.26% 25.52% Middle Lane 11/15/2011 Braum 975 6300 15.11% 51% 0.75% Support 5/12/2014

Those champions are above Janna, using your logic these champs are OP and broken, they need nerfs.

GorgannanSep 2, 20151 votes

You just cited a bunch of champions with lower win rates, and then said by my logic they need nerfing.

You need to read a book. Good day.

Jesus Christ.

GorgannanSep 2, 20151 votes

They have lower winrates than her now.

Most of them are harder and less safe than Janna, meaning worse when behind.

That invalidates my argument like it invalidates my theory of brain activity in this thread.

PennsSep 2, 20152 votes

To be fair, Janna has a point & click single target slow.

kek

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