@Meddler are you guys aware of Zyra´s kit?

Shaian··1 votes·651 views

Like the last time she had any balance changes were almost 2 years ago. Its not only herself, who is slow. Everything she does is delayed and short ranged. She was the Queen of utility yea.

But, look at her right now. 140 Manacosts on her ult, which has a castrange of 700 and knocks up for 1 second after a 2 second delay. Her Q costs at max rank level 95 mana (nearly like an ultimate) and is delayed as well (1 second) and it roots herself. Her E roots enemys for 0.75 seconds till level 8. But, it also roots herself for 0.5 seconds. Yea in theory she can root an entire team. But, its like the easiest dodgeable ability in the game. I mean, she can´t even follow up her own spells, because of her range. Additionally, that 325 base ms. Or her passive (i like that idea of a death passive for her though, her current ist still underwhelming (or just bad)). Additionally she is the 2nd squishiest champ in the game and can´t come up for it.

Are you guys just ignoring her? Or do you have plans for her? Some Qol changes like Aatrox in between? I dont think she needs a great rework. Just some tweaking some numbers would be huge for her.

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CreationFlaw1 votes

Zyra's ranked winrate

Shaian1 votes

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Zyra's ranked winrate

Because, Zyra is played by any casual player and not by people who main her? And a winrate does not reflect how out old a kit is. Ashe had a winrate of 52% before she was reworked.

Sir Yamazuki1 votes

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Because, Zyra is played by any casual player and not by people who main her? And a winrate does not reflect how out old a kit is. Ashe had a winrate of 52% before she was reworked.

Ashe was dominating higher ranked games while performing poorly/average in lower ranked games. She was over 55% winrate in plat+. Part of Ashe's changes were straight up meant to make her weaker when played with a competent Ashe player while making her overall easier for everyone else.

Zyra also does get picked by players who don't main her, and they still win 50% of the time at least as a support. People need to stop mistaking popularity for strength.

doubleguac1 votes

Even if that's true, then that means that the people who are good at her are doing good with her. So what's the problem?

I don't see any huge issues with zyra's kit. She has excellent damage, utility, and zone control, but her abilities are often easy to dodge, and she's squishy. Nothing about that sentence strikes me as concerning.

If anything on her kit needs changing, it's maybe her passive, which is, admittedly, kind of boring and lackluster.

I think she's a niche pick in lane (both bot and mid), but that's not necessarily a bad thing. It just means you can't blindly pick her into any lane opponent. There are plenty of balanced champions who are like that.

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