31% win rate on ivern is pretty much preposterously low. The champion has a somewhat disjointed kit, virtually no free power other than his W, and is a squishy champ who building tank on feels bad because his ultimate is pretty underwhelming. He's in the 20%s for lanes too which is even worse.
INBEFORE DONT KNOW HOW TO PLAY IT YET
Navarune3 votesHis style is completely different from what most junglers expect. He's very team reliant and utility-based, where most junglers play either straight up damage dealers or hardcore initiators. Ivern is really neither of these.
AttackOnTeemos2 votesHm lets see here, he JUST came out, no one has a damn clue how to play him..Remember when Lucian first game out it was a week until people understood he was a damn burst champion.
CrimsonReaps2 votesSupport gone jg dude, its gonna take jungle mains time to adjust to the playstyle and to the champ himself. along with discovering the best jg routes and power spikes.
Placentas1 votesI honestly feel like Ivern feels really healthy right now.
Killstrado1 votesI think the main factors are there people don't quite know how to play with an ivern, also I think a lot has to do with people are building jungle items even though he almost benefits Zero from any of them until it's completely built. your best bet is to start out with literally anything else. With health in runes are masteries, athenes is one of the best items to build first because his shield works amazing with it.
the weeaboo1 votesIt's because jungle mains are building him full AP and expecting that they'll be getting kills as always. NO. HE IS A SUPPORT TANK. That means Tracker's + Cinderhulk, Deadmans, Abyssal Scepter, Frozen Heart, Liandy's, etc. If you build it on Amumu you build it on Ivern.
Woodakoodashooda1 votesThat would make his shield worthless.
I've tested him a couple times and he definitely needs AP or his abilities won't do squat for anyone. Daisy's health also scales on his AP. Finally, he doesn't have a kill combo. He is utility. He needs cdr to make the most out of that utility.
He is support, yes, but he is a squishy support. He seems like the jungle equivalent of Lulu.
the weeaboo1 votes[{quoted}](name=Chocolate Frost,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QmlqQvQ9,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2016-10-07T17:09:25.272+0000)
That would make his shield worthless.
I've tested him a couple times and he definitely needs AP or his abilities won't do squat for anyone. Daisy's health also scales on his AP. Finally, he doesn't have a kill combo. He is utility. He needs cdr to make the most out of that utility.
He is support, yes, but he is a squishy support. He seems like the jungle equivalent of Lulu.
Everything in your argument doesn't apply...
AP:
CDR:
Things you shouldn't be buying on Ivern:
DarkRitual1 votesHis optimal build is still not figured out. People are still learning how to use and abuse his kit. I have lla few games on him as support and still need to figure out how I want to build him to suit my playstyle.
He's new and not obviously op, so it takes time for people to solve the puzzle of optimal build/plays.
Thè Jokes On You1 votesI think these numbers are skewed. I have been playing nothing but Ivern in the jungle, AP Tank/ Support, and out of 10 games I've lost 2. Just have to have a different mindset. He's not going to carry, but he damn sure will help someone else carry.
