@Riot What was the point to nerf qss?

Daxanater··2 votes·529 views

I heard the main goal was to identify the zed problem mainly. But I don't see any nerfs for him? In fact now we can't qss fizz's ult and only stop the slow...

What's the real meaning behind all this. Why is there no nerfs to zed? And why make it so we can't qss fizz's ult off?

8 Comments

PulsarPollo2 votes

Cause Zed and Fizz rely on their ults as their main damage source early in the game. QSS was a common item on ADCs and other laners and was an item that would commonly be purchased relatively early in the game (Mid Game). It would hard counter the power of these champs and something had to be done about it. There are no nerfs to Zed because of the form he is in right now. He is very difficult to play mechanically and very rewarding at the same time. Taking that away from Zed with the QSS is game ending for that player. ~ruski

Joey3761 votes

Zed is not hard anymore stop lying Azir and Cass Yasuo/Vayne are much are then he is now in his current game state. Zed has such a strong early game and fizz after six if even crushes so how is it fair to not nerf them this is unjust and I am getting sick of these changes. Zed could still 100-0 a target with two kills fizz can do that with no ult with no kills. Zed is far to strong right now as is fizz. Zed and FIzz 1v5 when they are not fed and get hit by cc with only 1-2 kills that makes no sense and you can not gank them really zed w fizz e so how is that fair to the ADC and any other role that get blown up in one second?

PulsarPollo1 votes

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Zed is not hard anymore stop lying Azir and Cass Yasuo/Vayne are much are then he is now in his current game state. Zed has such a strong early game and fizz after six if even crushes so how is it fair to not nerf them this is unjust and I am getting sick of these changes. Zed could still 100-0 a target with two kills fizz can do that with no ult with no kills. Zed is far to strong right now as is fizz. Zed and FIzz 1v5 when they are not fed and get hit by cc with only 1-2 kills that makes no sense and you can not gank them really zed w fizz e so how is that fair to the ADC and any other role that get blown up in one second?

Zed is hard cause of shadow placement and his own positioning for damage. His early game is strong like many other mid laners, so Zed is not a renegade to the mid lane meta. Fizz and Zed are very squishy and susceptible to CC, why can't you CC them if you claim he is too strong? You can finish him off like that. All champs can 100-0 pre 6, I don't know where your logic is coming from, clear bias in your opinion. They can't 1v5 as their CDs are reasonable early game. It is fair because there is only one mid laner and that champion is the only real one that is capable of high burst with the exception of a burst JG on your team, but this meta encourages tanky junglers, so burst junglers are excluded in the meta, essentially. Please, speak proper English and use proper grammar, I can barely understand what you're saying. ~ruski

Joey3761 votes

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Zed is hard cause of shadow placement and his own positioning for damage. His early game is strong like many other mid laners, so Zed is not a renegade to the mid lane meta. Fizz and Zed are very squishy and susceptible to CC, why can't you CC them if you claim he is too strong? You can finish him off like that. All champs can 100-0 pre 6, I don't know where your logic is coming from, clear bias in your opinion. They can't 1v5 as their CDs are reasonable early game. It is fair because there is only one mid laner and that champion is the only real one that is capable of high burst with the exception of a burst JG on your team, but this meta encourages tanky junglers, so burst junglers are excluded in the meta, essentially. Please, speak proper English and use proper grammar, I can barely understand what you're saying. ~ruski

Not everyone speaks or writes perfect English and why does zed have a 93% ban right in Plat 1 plus?

PulsarPollo1 votes

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Not everyone speaks or writes perfect English and why does zed have a 93% ban right in Plat 1 plus?

He's banned because of the QSS changes. Also, data above Platinum 1 does not accurately represent the community, as the majority of the players are not in Platinum or Diamond league, etc.

Daxanater1 votes

bump

Joey3761 votes

His ban rate before QSS change 47-63% which is still alarmingly high which shows he is unhealthy oh and another thing the higher the MRR the more skill you have so if all those players are banning him that must mean something since those players that are plat + are the best LOL players in our community. Wouldn't you agree that there is a correlation with zed and highly skilled players.

PulsarPollo1 votes

I don't agree because I can't understand you. ~ruski

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