Duskblade should not be this cheap.

The thigh guy·Aug 27, 2019·15 votes·2,155 views

2900 gold. For one of the best damage based items in the game.

Not only that, but also one of the best utility items in the game due to vision denial and how scarce vision is now.

30 Comments

JuiceBoxPAug 27, 201911 votes

I'll tell you what is really absurd. That it builds from two 1100 items which are incredibly fucking powerful. at every stage of building this item, you are strong.

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lul the downvote bots. 20:40 PM: 10 20:55 PM: -17

Soul DealerAug 27, 20194 votes

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I'll tell you what is really absurd. That it builds from two 1100 items which are incredibly fucking powerful. at every stage of building this item, you are strong.

And yet people complain that bruiser items are too strong when Tiamat cost 1375 and phage costs 1250

BiospearAug 27, 20196 votes

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2900 gold. For one of the best damage based items in the game.

Not only that, but also one of the best utility items in the game

Ahem item 3157

SirsirAug 27, 20194 votes

Duskblade is still better. Even when it's on CD you still see if you're on a ward, as a class that needs to be MIA to be its msot effective. Has a direct damage supplement on top of the stats.

Don't get me wrong Zhonyas is a very close second, but DB is far better.

AnateraAug 27, 20194 votes

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Ahem

Zhonya's doesn't block duskblade, since it will only proc on an autoattack. Nice try.

BiospearAug 27, 20192 votes

So Adding armor to counter lethality, matching Cdr, Equivalent adaptive Damage, and literal invulnerability for 2.5 seconds at the same price of Duskblade doesn’t mean it counters it?

The thigh guyAug 27, 20195 votes

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So Adding armor to counter lethality, matching Cdr, Equivalent adaptive Damage, and literal invulnerability for 2.5 seconds at the same price of Duskblade doesn’t mean it counters it?

You cannot compare ad and ap in damage. 1ad is worth a FUCK TON more than 1 ap

AnateraAug 27, 20193 votes

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So Adding armor to counter lethality, matching Cdr, Equivalent adaptive Damage, and literal invulnerability for 2.5 seconds at the same price of Duskblade doesn’t mean it counters it?

The only thing you listed that actually matters in terms of survivability in relation to duskblade is the armor. Especially since CDR doesn't affect anything duskblade does to the character, nor does the AP, nor does the invulnerability, since you can't attack while someone is invulnerable, thus the duskblade's proc won't be used (I literally said this already, but whatever, it looks like attention is at a premium). Nice job trying to inflate your point, however, I don't give a shit about any of that for the aforementioned reasons, so I'll ignore it and discuss the armor instead.

Oooooohhhhh 45 armor. Woooooooowww That's so much armor man. That's like....5 more than a single chain vest. Whoooooaaahhh. You're right man. So much armooooorrrr.

The thigh guyAug 27, 20193 votes

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Ahem

Cool. 70 ap and an active with a 2 minute cooldown.

IllIllIlllllllAug 27, 20193 votes

Yeah lets make it cost 3000000 gold

SirsirAug 27, 20191 votes

Finally balanced

[slayer-jinx-wink]

Troll SlaiyerAug 27, 20193 votes

lets just remove 1 item from each class, except tanks cuz their items suck. item 3147 item 3053 item 3813 item 3285 item 3031

The thigh guyAug 27, 20191 votes

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lets just remove 1 item from each class, except tanks cuz their items suck.

I can get behind this. Lol

KazekibaAug 27, 20192 votes

Revert the item

item 1038 item 3134 + 900g (3300g) 65 AD + 18 lethality No CDR Blackout: (Detects invisible or stealthed enemy traps and wards for 8 seconds upon reaching vision range. (30 second CD). Melee basic attacks instantly clear wards.) Nightfall: Basic attacks on an enemy champion leave a mark that stores physical damage taken over 3 seconds. After 3 seconds, the mark explodes dealing its damage again. (120 cd)

EkhasmAug 27, 20192 votes

its only 55 ad, I think it's too expensive if anything

The thigh guyAug 27, 20192 votes

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its only 55 ad, I think it's too expensive if anything

55 ad then lethality then a damage based passive.

Daddy ReTaricAug 27, 20192 votes

Tbh, my only concern about duskblade is the fact that it have no internal cooldown. You basically only need to have stealth or walk in and out of a bush or visions to proc it again. I would not mind duskblade if it would proc once and go on cooldown. Thats the fact you can multi proc it that bother me.

The thigh guyAug 27, 20192 votes

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Tbh, my only concern about duskblade is the fact that it have no internal cooldown. You basically only need to have stealth or walk in and out of a bush or visions to proc it again. I would not mind duskblade if it would proc once and go on cooldown. Thats the fact you can multi proc it that bother me.

That’s part of why I say it’s one of if not the biggest damage buff by an item in the game. And also part of why it should not be the cheapest core item for damage in the game.

Daddy ReTaricAug 27, 20191 votes

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That’s part of why I say it’s one of if not the biggest damage buff by an item in the game. And also part of why it should not be the cheapest core item for damage in the game.

It would not be a problem if they FINALLY give the item cooldown so we have time to react to assassins.

PiggyTheAstroAug 27, 20192 votes

Duskblade is BS. The passive is already a problem, imagine having both lens and normal ward. This is what duskblade is. And even better than lens because it activates automatically. It has damage and lethality. All for 2900 gold. Either need it to 3100 gold or nerf lethality to +10.

AnateraAug 27, 20192 votes

Lul, the downvote bot returns. Imagine being so pathetic you need to use one at all for threads you don't like.

JuiceBoxPAug 27, 20192 votes

ikr

The thigh guyAug 28, 20191 votes

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Lul, the downvote bot returns. Imagine being so pathetic you need to use one at all for threads you don't like.

Glad I’m not the only one seeing that lol

Cloud273Aug 27, 20192 votes

Duskblade shouldn't exist at all.

PimpStickNasusAug 28, 20192 votes

Coming from the guy that thinks Zed 100-0's with R-E-AA

The thigh guyAug 28, 20191 votes

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Coming from the guy that thinks Zed 100-0's with R-E-AA

Coming from the guy who forgets the ignite in there.

PimpStickNasusAug 28, 20191 votes

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Coming from the guy who forgets the ignite in there.

Ignite damage doesn't matter at all. Unless the Zed is 5k gold and 4 levels ahead on a squishy there's no chance he kills them with R-E-AA, double ignite damage and it still isn't close.

The thigh guyAug 28, 20191 votes

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Ignite damage doesn't matter at all. Unless the Zed is 5k gold and 4 levels ahead on a squishy there's no chance he kills them with R-E-AA, double ignite damage and it still isn't close.

Except it does. Especially once taking his duskblade into account. The item is stupid.

PimpStickNasusAug 28, 20191 votes

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Except it does. Especially once taking his duskblade into account. The item is stupid.

No it really doesn't, go look at how much damage Zed actually does. He can't kill without his Q, it's like half his damage. A zed isn't sitting there on Duskblade and killing people from 100-0 without hitting Q

At level 14 with a duskblade Zed could not kill a level 9 Kassadin(lowest base armor in game) who has zero armor or hp items with r e aa.

And I also saw that it wasn’t even the armor that saved kassadin, Zed with that combo at level 14(the level e gets maxed) does 1,058 damage. Every single champion in the game can survive that with no armor at level 10 or higher, just off base hp. Not including Yuumi anivia and sona that’s level 8. That’s with no armor at all, and no heath items.

It simply does not do nearly as much damage as you think it does. If Zed lands his Q’s it will be deadly, but that’s because he has to actually land his skillshot. The undodgeable one shot you’re talking about doesn’t exist unless Zed is 5 levels and 2 items ahead of everyone.