Isn't it about time for a Grievous Wounds AD item?

Blade of Justic·Aug 11, 2015·2 votes·246 views

Tired of not being able to burst down a fed Warwick, Mundo or Aatrox just because I don't have easy access to GWs.

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MystagentAug 11, 20151 votes

I would love for one.. they really need one because lots of ADC wont take summoner 14 item 3165 so guess what... your shit out of luck

53436278DEL1Aug 11, 20151 votes

same more for ww mundo and volibear

67chromeAug 11, 20151 votes

Isn't it about time for a Grievous Wounds AD item?

The last one was so terrible Viktor 's Augment: Death was purchased more often, as was Rengar bonetooth necklace. Which is just sad, 1 of 4 possible Viktor-only items was purchased more than Ex Calling, leading Ex Calling to be one of the least purchased item in the game. Much less than Atma's Impaler or Sword of the Divine.

Grievous Wounds alone just isn't useful enough by itself to really make an appealing item. With summoner 14 and draft being a thing, there's also a pretty low chance anyone above a certain rank would even consider itemizing for Grievous Wounds, as Ignite is a pretty solid summoner most champions can feel good about running with, and no item really seems anywhere near as appealing to the same number of champions.

For a Grievous Wound item to be a thing, it basically needs 95% of the reason to purchase it to be not the Grievous Wounds, which kind of leads to the question of why even add one?

Because item 3165 ? A very large number of item bonuses are limited to a specific archetype. Things like Life Steal allows AD champions to sustain through a fight while doing sustained damage while AP champions have Zhonya's for a burst of survivability between bursts adds some pretty solid flavor between classes and makes each build path have realistic pros and cons, distinguishing each path rather than making all a poo-brown mix of every capacity. And again - Morello's isn't purchased because the anti-healing, it's purchased because it's tied for the best mana-sustain and offers a ton of damage. If wounds was flat out removed from it, it's purchase rate essentially wouldn't change.

Tired of not being able to burst down a fed Warwick, Mundo or Aatrox

Grievous Wounds won't help you there.

Warwick, Mundo, and Aatrox are tanky DPS. They all build tanky and do DPS, often being as tanky as a tank. Being highly resilient to burst is something they all do as-is just from being tanky. That's defense doing that, not sustain.

Sustain is 100% useless against an OHKO burst. It doesn't matter if you have 10% life steal or 20000% life steal if your HP drops from 100% to 0%.

Stats you're looking for to burst those are %HP nukes and %armor penetrations.

And if you want to take them out with sustained DPS: slows are substantially better against them than anything else, if they aren't close enough to AA something they really aren't doing much. There weakness is getting kited to death.

If sustain is an issue - another answer is simply having more sustain, through life steal, spell vamp, or HP/5 effects.

There's essentially no situation where item 3153 isn't simply going to be a better buy vs. those champions than a Grevious Wounds thing for AD.

MarthianAug 12, 20151 votes

Or we could just nerf the reasons why you'd need GW: Warwick Too good at being a duelist (click ult suppression just needs to go.) Swain Needs his healing numbers reduced, especially on minions which he heals a load off of. DrMundo Possibly needs a rework. Or a new ult Trundle Slightly reduce the drain of HP. Gragas Really just needs a rework. Does everything well: Has very high base damage, can be insanely tanky, and has strong CC and mobility.

Mostly everyone else this would be an issue for (ADCs, Attrox, characters that have to be offensive/take risks to heal) are pretty fair: kill them quickly.