@Riot, an appropriate Vayne nerf

CrazedPorcupine··3 votes·433 views

Right now, people are complaining about vayne quite a bit, mostly about her %Max HP true damage that also has a flat amount.

My nerf is pretty simple. IF you don't want to nerf Vayne's True damage, then nerf her range to 525. 525 puts her inbetween most ADCs and ranged champs and the shorter ranged ADCS like Lucian, Sivir, Kalista.

The reasoning behind this is how safe vayne is in early laning. If she's not facing a champion that has greater range than vayne, vayne has a huge advantage in the laning phase because of how safe she is through tumble and condemn. By reducing her safety in lane, you increase the risk for her early game, and then the reward for her monstrous late game is rewarded. 525 still gives her some range on other shorter range ADCS, but also is shorter than most all other ADCS, meaning that her early game is much riskier.

Granted, I know that most people may not like this nerf, but I feel it would be appropriate.

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EndlessSorcerer2 votes

Vayne already has the shortest effective range among marksman (that is, she can't affect anyone outside of her autoattack range and she doesn't have anything extending her autoattack range). I'd honestly prefer that she be nerfed in another area of her kit if they plan to nerf her at all.

If they were going to nerf Vayne, I'd honestly prefer one of the following:

  • Reduce the bonus AD granted by her ultimate (maybe by 5/10/15 AD)
  • Reduce the damage on Condemn (either reduced on initial hit and second hit or it doesn't reapply damage on the second hit)
  • Condemn doesn't apply a stack of Silver Bolts (so she can't AA-Q-AA-E) for a quick proc and immediately disengage
  • Hit her base stats or growths slightly (i.e. Health, AD, or Attack Speed)

Alternatively, they could slightly hit Blade of the Ruined King since it's her core item and it is also being used to great affect by Devourer junglers at the moment. [Please note that I like playing Devourer junglers, so this isn't me hating on them.

CrazedPorcupine1 votes

thats why I said only 525 instead of 500. She still has a longer range than the shortest ADCS, but this hits her lane safety and safety in general.

Kledy McKledFace1 votes

wait I thoguht it was quinn shit

YumaS2Astral1 votes

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Vayne already has the shortest effective range among marksman (that is, she can't affect anyone outside of her autoattack range and she doesn't have anything extending her autoattack range). I'd honestly prefer that she be nerfed in another area of her kit if they plan to nerf her at all.

If they were going to nerf Vayne, I'd honestly prefer one of the following:

  • Reduce the bonus AD granted by her ultimate (maybe by 5/10/15 AD)
  • Reduce the damage on Condemn (either reduced on initial hit and second hit or it doesn't reapply damage on the second hit)
  • Condemn doesn't apply a stack of Silver Bolts (so she can't AA-Q-AA-E) for a quick proc and immediately disengage
  • Hit her base stats or growths slightly (i.e. Health, AD, or Attack Speed)

Alternatively, they could slightly hit Blade of the Ruined King since it's her core item and it is also being used to great affect by Devourer junglers at the moment. [Please note that I like playing Devourer junglers, so this isn't me hating on them.

I like the idea of nerfing her base stats. Especially her attack speed. I mean... If I am not mistaken, Riot even said, that other champions with strong on-hit effects or spells that scale well with attack speed, such as Aatrox, Azir, Kayle, and Jinx, tend to have lower base attack speed to compensate. On other hand, Vayne has one of the most, if not the most powerful on-hit effect in the game, yet she has great base attack speed and she already buys a lot of attack speed to have more synergy; why? If she had lower attack speed, she would be a lot more bearable.

Hullabaloo9071 votes

Im not sure if vayne needs a nerf, but this is a reasonable one if she does.

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