so healing can be countered by grievous wounds but shield has no item to counter it ?

xGunna1··2 votes·778 views

there are champs that need healing to survive

grievous wounds should not be so long but only an active for like 3 or 4 seconds

aatrox relies on healing swain as well

they get countered easily but champs with shields has no counter

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hhaavviikk3 votes

because that would just be stupid, grieveous wounds and healing counter system is stupid.

OP heals without it, shit heals with it, it's a bandaid system, much better if they were to actually balance the abilities.

also important difference being that heals stick around, shields don't

xGunna11 votes

shields have surprise element if your enemy riven low and u engage he shield so much so ur calculations screwed but an aatrox u know his healing is halved cuz u counter him with last whisper item

Pieceofcandy2 votes

IIRC they're planning to add an item to address this, no ETA but "Soon".

DemainaNyx1 votes

item 3165 Applies Grievous Wounds for 8 seconds if you are under 35% health item 3123 Physical damage applies Grievous Wounds for 3 seconds. item 3033 Physical damage applies Grievous Wounds for 5 seconds. item 3076 item 3075 Damaging this person applies Grievous Wounds for 1 second.

The only one that's long is Morello, and it's gated by lowing the person to that health before it even procs in the first place.

And shields really don't need anything to counter it because they are a 1 time thing that disappears after a few seconds. Someone could give you a 3000 hp shield, but that's completely irrelevant if they use it when you aren't taking damage. Whereas healing is there after the affect has worn off.

If you are 200 HP and I shield you for 100 HP, you have 200 HP after the shield wears off. But if I heal you for 100 HP, now you have 300 HP, so my heal lasts longer in a sense.

xGunna11 votes

yes you are right about shields

but why healing is countered hard at least make it last few seconds not when you constantly getting hit = for ever Grievous Wounds

it should last 3 secs and then stops for like 40 sec cooldown so champs that relies on healing won't be useless like swain ult or aatrox w or at least they should get some compensation for being countered hard not like champs that spam sheilds every few secs

and teamfights are already short so you need that sheild in the right moment not when no team fight

Escheton1 votes

item 3031

zlumpy1 votes

All damage items counter shields.

Athenes Lulu1 votes

burst and damage is high up the roof but fucking shields!

BubblyRainbows1 votes

Heals are permanent. Your health goes up and stays there until you are damaged again. Shields go away after a reasonably short duration (with very rare exceptions, such as Malphite passive). So they kind of need a counter for heals. Shields wear off on their own and the issue is solved.

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