i hope swain will be fun and op
he was the first champ i mained in s3 God am excited 
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RiotRiot King Cobra15 votesHaving played a ton of new Swain, I think he's REALLY fun. :)
xGunna12 voteswow now a lot of people will comment on my post
Who is Taliyah3 votesThere you go.
Who is Taliyah2 votesIt's not on PBE yet right?
Have you also tested the new Taliyah skin? Kappa
Pierce The Veal1 votes[{quoted}](name=Riot King Cobra,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Kv8XJqZY,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-12-14T18:37:39.118+0000)
Having played a ton of new Swain, I think he's REALLY fun. :)
Has anything been revealed yet?
RiotRiot King Cobra4 votesHas anything been revealed yet?
I believe this was the last time we talked about Swain: https://nexus.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/2017/10/champion-roadmap-october-2017/
Solo Josh1 votes[deleted]
xGunna11 votesolaf and mundo and trynda those champs are boring only AA champs all needs a rework for nice flashy plays like zed
Succubús GF1 votesolaf and mundo aren't based on autoes...
xGunna11 votesolaf only throw an axe lol like mundo
only rely on AA
Glory to God1 votesNot sure if you're the right person to ask but will we get a champ roadmap after Swain's rework?
RiotRiot King Cobra4 votesYep!
Chembaron Yamada1 votesIf the next champion released is coming from Piltover or Zaun, blink 2 times!
Velzard of Koz3 votesNo, not another one. Muh void... I know void shouldn't be too filled, but If they invade Runeterra, then it counts as making void more void.
Chembaron Yamada2 votesThe last new champ from Zaun was Ekko, some time ago. And Piltover's last was Camille, but it still lacks champs. Piltover needs more diversity.
You are right that we could use a new voidling, though.
Velzard of Koz1 votesI count Warwick and Urgot as Zaunite releases since VGUs are presented similar to as new champs. Also I realize Camille was last, but it's still not as far as last champions of other regions.
Chembaron Yamada1 votesDon't think this is how this works. We got 3 Ionian releases in a row this year, but Irelia still got slated for her VGU soon.
I think new champs and VGUs are seen as different cases here.
Forhonor3211 votesCan we get a rough idea of when he'll be hitting the PBE, like late January early February? I'm interested to know what has changed about him.
Blood Magicks1 votesWhy you gotta do this?
cries in helpless overhypedness
warpenguin5551 votesIs he being balanced for mid or top? or both?
Moonboy651 votesnah, he's being fully reworked
Spideraxe1 votesCould I ask if you guys brought some guest Swain playtesters to try him like Quas?
RiotRiot King Cobra3 votesWhile we haven't brought in any superstars, we've run a number of player labs for Swain that consisted of Swain mains and mage mains of various skill levels. Their feedback has proven super valuable in Swain's development. :)
Spideraxe1 votesIf there's still time left to iterate before his reveal I'd def recommend bringing him as I personally feel his feedback could be useful as one of the most iconic Swain mains, but I'm sure Alex will do a great job regardless
Brutusness2 votesI have an extremely important question about the update. Is he still rocking the blue triple Mohawk, or is that nixed? What's his head situation?
patmax171 votesWhat phase is his development at the moment? Is his kit almost settled and undergoing polish, or are you still exploring?
Moonboy651 voteswhen can we expect Swain to make his tactical return?
8.2? 8.3?
SSShutTheDuckUp1 votesThe most important question: Does he still have Beatrice as a part of his kit (in any form)?
Żügżwäng1 votes[{quoted}](name=Riot King Cobra,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Kv8XJqZY,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-12-14T18:37:39.118+0000)
Having played a ton of new Swain, I think he's REALLY fun. :)
With the Bilgewater Swain skin going on sale soon, I was wondering if you could give us a small hint on how it looks... Is it similar to the original, or did they do a full overhaul to it.
Just curious because currently I'm not a huge fan of it, so if the rework makes swain look like a badass pirate I'd be down for the 260RP gamble.
Or perhaps riot can show off what swain will look like before the sale?
RiotRiot King Cobra3 votesSo I know for sure I'm going to be playing a lot of new Swain when he goes live...what I don't know yet is which skin I'm going to "main" because they all are insanely awesome - Bilgewater Swain included. :D
EkyonKun1 votesIs he still a big ol' healy boi? I like my big ol' healy boi.
Hexs Fortune1 votes[{quoted}](name=Riot King Cobra,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Kv8XJqZY,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-12-14T18:37:39.118+0000)
Having played a ton of new Swain, I think he's REALLY fun. :)
The real question is : Does the early bird still gut the worm?
DragonShea1 votes[{quoted}](name=Riot King Cobra,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Kv8XJqZY,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-12-14T18:37:39.118+0000)
Having played a ton of new Swain, I think he's REALLY fun. :)
Good thing I am not a hacker or else I would have gone in and leak the specs.
DrAtomMagnumMDPh5 votesI hope instead of op he is going to be balanced. Fun? Which in league vocalubry usualy means cancer? I hope not.
xGunna12 votesop is more fun than meh balanced = weak
DrAtomMagnumMDPh4 votesop is more fun than meh balanced = weak
Balanced is neither op or weak, thats the inbetween. Op isn't fun because when you win it doesn't give you the "i was better so i won" feeling, only the " my champ was better so i won" feeling. Some of us don't find that satisfactory.
xGunna11 voteswell even challenger players only look for op champs to keep their elo high so playing op champs is indeed a smart move to win games and winning games is the goal
DrAtomMagnumMDPh1 voteswell even challenger players only look for op champs to keep their elo high so playing op champs is indeed a smart move to win games and winning games is the goal
If you want elo of course but i rather have my wins my prefered champs, even if its harder to achieve.
Mordepool1 votesYou sir are correct
ReySolomon1 votesI'm gonna miss Swain. (100 games season 7)
xGunna12 voteshe is that kind of champ like galio and garen when you build him tanky is not tanky enough and when you build him damage not enough damage always in the middle
ReySolomon1 voteshe is that kind of champ like galio and garen when you build him tanky is not tanky enough and when you build him damage not enough damage always in the middle
Garen is super tanky lol and when Galio came out he was extremely tanky but I agree with Swain.
xGunna11 votesnope garen when u build him not like when u build rammus or maokai
Dipsydoop1 votesEmphasis on the OP part.
Tristanl0l1 votesso what's changing
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