Stoneborn juggernauts look promising

Big Lincoln··9 votes·1,092 views

Trundle, Olaf and Mundo can become surprisingly effective with it

arguably better on them than actual supports due to solo/jungle income and actually stacking enough health to scale it higher (+ benefiting from the 5% and cinderhulk) although that might be offset by redemption and other bonus healing items

this is pretty nice, gives me a less selfish keystone I can actually make use of. would recommend

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Only Play Darius2 votes

No it's not the heal is awful

Big Lincoln2 votes

made up for by having no cooldown on champs with low cooldown slows

worked pretty nice for me, only complaint is that stoneborn apparently only heals if you auto attack which is pretty unfair bias towards ADC

Legacy Hydralpha1 votes

Imagine someone like Ryze pulling off their entire spell rotation on a target marked with Stoneborn Pact. (Actually, what WOULD that look like?)

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

It would look like Spellvamp making a comeback.

Titanium701 votes

Would be pointless since the heal is over time and should not stack.

You'll never heal more than 0.625%HP/s as a Ranged no matter how much you spam.

The AA limitation is indeed quite pointless - targeted towards AoE users.

TotalJerk1 votes

Early game it's pretty legit for sustain, but it falls off a cliff.

SpecterVonBaren1 votes

The health increase is pretty bad too. With 3000 health you gain 150 health, if you got that amount of health early it would be good but that much of a health increase means nothing come late game when you'd have that health.

Mordepool1 votes

Not a fan of having Keystones tied to CC. Seems exclusionary for my main.

It's still a good Keystone

Big Lincoln1 votes

mord wouldn't use it well anyway since he doesn't stack health

INoble KnightI1 votes

You'd be surprised how much Health he gets

The Blue Rajah1 votes

Well, it works if you buy a rylai's, which most mordes do.

Mordepool1 votes

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Well, it works if you buy a rylai's, which most mordes do.

Forks work as a projectile weapon doesn't mean it is the Optimal choice

The Blue Rajah1 votes

Well then it's not good for him because it's not optimal, not because it's exclusionary

Mordepool1 votes

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Well then it's not good for him because it's not optimal, not because it's exclusionary

"Seems". Also in talking about all Keystones

Mcloved1 votes

well, as a tank support that has cc for days its nice, because it keeps my adc alive, as long as they understand to attack the target that has the cc on them....

Ðelofasht1 votes

I agree, juggernauts really like this, most of them have slows or subtle displacements. Very helpful to have a poke that can heal your allies, and the extra health itself isn't bad, especially if you are going to build Titanic Hydra.

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

Meanwhile item 3070 Garen item 3070

Critmaster Garen1 votes

im really anoyed by the fact that they removed silences from the list of cc that triggers the mastery just before its release.

Big Lincoln1 votes

cant have garen being good with a keystone, he might become viable :^)

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