I get that twitch is the whole "ambush" guy but where's the counterplay to this?

SquashCannon··3 votes·507 views

https://clips.twitch.tv/LazyProtectiveEggAMPEnergy

Little gem from tobias stream.

https://clips.twitch.tv/ExuberantFaithfulCroquetteWholeWheat

Another one. Jumps out of stealth with a mile for his AA range LOL.

We see how stealth is stupidly hard to balance on a melee like evelynn, how does that translate to putting said stealth on a ranged and higher DPS carry like twitch? Ugh.

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420 grams4 votes

He's a squishy late game hyper carry. You beat him the same way in any other fight against an adc, focusing them first. Yes, he goes invisible, but you beat this with good map awareness and focus. Notices how out of position he goes compared to other adcs in the first video: he goes right behind them and right out of camouflage range behind an assassin.

rtbf2216514121 votes

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He's a squishy late game hyper carry. You beat him the same way in any other fight against an adc, focusing them first. Yes, he goes invisible, but you beat this with good map awareness and focus. Notices how out of position he goes compared to other adcs in the first video: he goes right behind them and right out of camouflage range behind an assassin.

I don't see why people find it so difficult to figure out what a Twitch would do if he went invisible.

Is it really that hard to figure out what they would personally do if they were that Twitch?

SquashCannon1 votes

[{quoted}](name=420 grams,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QWlU8XnK,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-07-06T02:11:20.874+0000)

He's a squishy late game hyper carry. You beat him the same way in any other fight against an adc, focusing them first. Yes, he goes invisible, but you beat this with good map awareness and focus. Notices how out of position he goes compared to other adcs in the first video: he goes right behind them and right out of camouflage range behind an assassin.

Twitch wasn't out of position in the firs video, he deliberately walked up behind gp and Jhin and melted both, gp had to flash and jhin got destroyed before he could meaningfully react. Rengar wasn't anywhere near to stop him since sion was ulting in and by the time rengar would have been able to do anything twitch already did more than enough to justify his own death.

Rewt1 votes

Guess what this all meant. The team was out of position. Twitch got to flank the carries.

If you arent horribly out of position like they were in the first clip you can kill the Twitch very easily.

Second Clip shows A twitch walk up. Kill 1 person. The other 2 ignore him. Then the twitch kills a second. The other guy just ignored him. then twitch ran down the other guy.

Its not a new concept that you need to focus the hyper carry and be map aware.

rtbf2216514121 votes

Wards are your friends.

Deep wards are also your friends.

undesirable team1 votes

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Wards are your friends.

Deep wards are also your friends.

cant ward against twitch walking half up the lane stealthed

rtbf2216514121 votes

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cant ward against twitch walking half up the lane stealthed

You are telling me you can't see him already in lane before he hits Q?

And that you can't use this: item 2055item 3341 item 3364

Although I'm not sure control wards detect him.

And why are you walking up the lane if you know he is invisible there in the first place? He can't do anything in stealth because it will break his stealth.

Mcsquzzy1 votes

I will say this he has a pretty long stealth even at lvl 1 so deep wards are the only way or a red. I also thing making his now visible 50-75 larger and have it reduce by 5 each level to compensate for his range vs Eve's melee status

rtbf2216514121 votes

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I will say this he has a pretty long stealth even at lvl 1 so deep wards are the only way or a red. I also thing making his now visible 50-75 larger and have it reduce by 5 each level to compensate for his range vs Eve's melee status

Yeah, his Q does last a long time. I never really disagreed with that. Usually, after he backs, you kinda know when he will pop up in lane stealthed after playing this game long enough.

Also, I didn't know if the person was complaining about jungle or laning twitch.

SquashCannon1 votes

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Wards are your friends.

Deep wards are also your friends.

His stealth lasts quite a long time and lets him cover very decent ground, and late game towards six items you simply cannot buy control wards anymore to detect him.

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