Deleting taunt spams is going too far, Rito

an actual dog·Nov 29, 2016·91 votes·4,040 views

Literally why? What's their reasoning here?

87 Comments

KcbmsQxbPLNov 29, 201649 votes

Because people are too immature to hold their composure. Taunt's are good psychological warfare, I don't know why we can't keep taunt spamming either.

SchàdenfreudeNov 29, 201638 votes

So true. Removing taunt is like removing level 5, 6, and 7 mastery emblems.

BALDG1VEN BOOMERNov 29, 20168 votes

Cause it tilts players to a next level of insanity, so Rito decided to be nice and stop the psychological warfare.

AbysswalkerMLPNov 29, 20169 votes

if its for stopping it from tilting people why is nunu bot still a skin

the weeabooNov 29, 20163 votes

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if its for stopping it from tilting people why is nunu bot still a skin

That's shit is annoying as fuck I wish they would delete that skin.

Photos of GhostsNov 29, 20162 votes

But. WHY. It's humourous. Just allow us to mute enemy voices, Ez's Q voiceline is much more tilting than any animation spam.

5000000000000000Nov 29, 20164 votes

idk, "you belong in a museum" spam is pretty annoying.

KrigjerNov 29, 20163 votes

Taunt's are good psychological warfare, I don't know why we can't keep taunt spamming either.

It's not really that effective if I can just mute you immediately.

I don't play this 'taunts tilt me enough to lose' bullshit.

NiceTryViNov 29, 20161 votes

Mutes dont stop taunts or laughs. You would have to completely mute all character voices to get rid of them, and some people like hearing their champion's voice lines.

KrigjerNov 30, 20161 votes

Mutes dont stop taunts or laughs. You would have to completely mute all character voices to get rid of them, and some people like hearing their champion's voice lines.

They do **for me. ** Someone has said in a different thread that it's a bug if you mute a player and still hear their laugh.

Because I don't hear their laugh or taunt. I see the champion animation for it... but I don't hear it once I mute them. Muting also stops mastery emote spam.

NiceTryViNov 30, 20161 votes

Then I must have that bug.

Troll for TrumpNov 29, 201623 votes

Because people are too immature ~~ to hold their composure~~ and feel the need to establish their dominance in a video game by spamming taunts.

Phyuq YiuNov 29, 20161 votes

Exactly this. As soon as i hear 1 laugh from Lux Lulu or Veigar its options > sound > voices 0%. btw Ahri taunts are so effective!

Troll for TrumpNov 30, 20162 votes

The animation's still just as obnoxious.

Especially when in conjunction with mastery emote spamming.

Looking at the mastery lvl 7 Yasuo weebs

GayFluffyUnicornNov 30, 20161 votes

*Looking at the master lvl 7 yasuo weebs who went 0/8 in lane against me but won because the rest of his team unfortunately crushed mine, ends the game with 3/18 and spams M7 emote at the nexus

ReDesignNov 29, 20161 votes

I feel the same way about people who over react to and get too offended over 4 characters that come with no effort (gg ez)

Weasel KenseiNov 30, 20164 votes

Yeah, the thing is... gg ez, thats people trying to be toxic. Most people dont like the idea of others trying to annoy them. Even if the base attempt fails, the notion that their is some asshole trying to get at you is unsettling. People dont like assholes, so when an asshole says "gg ez" the normal instinct is to feel that something bad should happen assholes trying to be assholes.

I mean lets say every day I come and piss on your car tires...

That wont hurt them. I dont do it in front of you. No big... Im just pissing on your stuff... I think its funny. I think me pissing on your stuff, is funny, and you have others saying "Its not hurting you, why complain." Now if you sit there and say "Im fine with people pissing on my things" so you can pretend not to see the parallel of "gg ez," good for you. Give your adress and place of work so people can find you and piss on your stuff. After all, you dont mind. Or do you?

Why would people pissing on your car tires bother you, if its not hurting them?

Thats just it, "gg ez" is people trying to piss on your attitude. Theyre trying to get emotional satisfaction from putting others in a negative state of mind. Now the only reason this dosnt bother people is because theyre a sociopath without normal human emotions. Or they claim its no big deal get over it because they want to keep doing it themselves.

Normal people dont like the idea of assholes getting to run around and try to spew their asshole machinations at them. They dont care if asshole activities are taken away from assholes (saying untrue derogatory/insulting statements to put people in a negative attitude).

So you see the "gg ez" isnt the part that offends people. Its the attitude that I get to piss on your car tires and I believe Im entitled to get to because you can just ignore it since its not affecting your tires or you... Its the act of trying to be an asshole that is offending people, not their specific action.

ReDesignNov 30, 20161 votes

Hm I see your point, but at a video game level/context of the internet, where it's also not the same person saying it (unlike your IRL piss on car wheel example, where btw I would actually get mad over the person myself even though them pissing on my wheels wouldn't really hurt me), whenever it does happen, I don't feel like wasting even a moment more than it takes to read those letters, to try to be the one to deal with/punish that person because of him being that type of person.

+It feels better and almost like you've " won" if you want to look at it that way, when you don't take the bait or have the response they expect. Guess there's different ways of looking at it and ways of trying to fix/stop it.

Weasel KenseiNov 30, 20161 votes

WHOA!

HEY!

Dont see my point...

Thats dangerous, you could break the internet with that shit man. You gotta be careful. You need to rage at me and threaten me... QUICKLY! BEFORE ITS TOO LATE!

In all seriousness though. A bit of what I was saying also extends to the broken window theory as well. If you or someone else reading this is not familiar.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broken_windows_theory

It goes with the idea that if you want the big laws enforced, the little laws have to be enforced.

With League, this means that if you want to stop people from thinking "hey pissing people off is fun... what else can I get away with?"

Its admirable that you can look at troll bait and let that roll off your back, but when they get to do little stuff without repercussion... Well for some its only a matter of time before they need more potent trolling to feed their addiction to other peoples negative emotions.

If that "gg ez" didnt annoy people, they wouldnt do it. Letting them "get away with it" though grinds some peoples gears. So, taking troll tools away is just enforcing the little laws as far as Im concerned. I particularly enjoyed Overwatchs replacing the "gg ez" with self deprecating statements like "I need a hug" and other more embarrassing fair.

At any rate... try to chill with all that reasonable person stuff on the interwebz, only polar points of views are allowed, and you MUST be angry with others that dont think what you do... its like the law or something, its what everyone else duz.

You know what the do to critical thinkers right? If you think outside the box too long, they wont let you back in!

ReDesignDec 1, 20161 votes

haha, btw for overwatch my confession is I still sometimes say it knowing it will change to that different text and that's how others seeit. When I feel like being a bit cheeky, I know that most others will know what I really wrote, cause its obvious it was changed. add me overwatch redesign #1589 btw if u wanna play, I might get salty at times but yea, also maybe we can do that HOTS thing (been looking for someone to do the 15 matches hots for the genji skin)

SolitairNov 30, 20163 votes

Its the thought that counts, so I report them anyway and masturbate later to the thought of their account recieving penalties for them not having the restraint to refrain from typing a simple, non-creative 4 letters.

Shuyin178Nov 29, 201612 votes

Are you taking about the audio short-loops when you spam the key? If they are finally fixing those then I say great. Some of the champions that can do it can get irritating. The short-loops were bugs to begin with.

TheorcheroNov 29, 20163 votes

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Are you taking about the audio short-loops when you spam the key? If they are finally fixing those then I say great. Some of the champions that can do it can get irritating. The short-loops were bugs to begin with.

Honestly I think a good solution would be to instead limit how much it can be short looped.

Hots has a system where if you emote, you can't cancel it. Kinda lame but if they're sitting there spamming taunts you probably can kick their ass if they aren't ahead.

WolfenstinNov 30, 20161 votes

That's one thing I kinda find great about HOTs (and Overwatch to an extent) in that if you want to BM with your emotes, you gotta dedicate to it and risk dying like a fool.

Either you learn not to do it again, do it correctly and survive, or get insta-karma'd.

Sassmast3rNov 29, 201610 votes

May I ask what their doing? I don't remember seeing anything about this. Are they making it so that when you mute a person you can't hear their taunt anymore? Or can you like, disable the animation too?

JofeyyNov 29, 20163 votes

I noticed when I jumped in a game with Garen and i couldn't do his taunt spam anymore. Its something (much to the annoyance of my friends) I find hilarious and it will be missed as one of the most entertaining things to do before a game starts.

RavenMagusNov 29, 201615 votes

Certain champions could spam emotes such that they cut off their own voice clip and restart over and over again. Only a few champions could do it, and that's what they're fixing afaik - not the ability to actually use emotes a lot.

Heimerdinger "I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I'd prefer a battle of wi-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I'd prefer a battle of wits, but you're unarmed."

Sassmast3rNov 29, 20161 votes

Hm. The only other champion I can even think of that was able to do this was Lissandra, but I suppose there are more since I don't use many of the super old champions that likely have that in their kit.

RavenMagusNov 29, 20163 votes

Off the top of my head: Heimerdinger Garen Lissandra Zed Nasus are the only ones who can or could do that.

Automated RivenNov 29, 20162 votes

you forgot nunubot laugh spam... annoying as hell. almost tilting

RavenMagusNov 29, 20164 votes

It's not really a spam emote in the same sense as those others. Nunubot's laugh is actually just a sound clip on repeat.

Automated RivenNov 29, 20163 votes

my bad. its still annoying as hell tho

DrahcirNov 29, 20162 votes

could have sworn that zed could emote spam.

L0ve Is BlueNov 29, 20169 votes

CLO CLO CLO CLO CLOSE YOUR EYES Lissandra

sir d wreckNov 29, 20168 votes

Garen Comecomecomecomecomecomecomecome

VeltoxNov 29, 20168 votes

Nasus YOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOOOO

Trias000Nov 29, 20162 votes

So they're just fixing a bug and that's what this fuss is all about?

DrahcirNov 29, 20164 votes

Because it's not something that hurts anyone, so there's no real point to fixing it.

ShaolinToiletNov 29, 20162 votes

Probably makes a lot more people happy than angry.

MrNuclearPumpkinNov 29, 20167 votes

I'm glad they're gone. They're annoying as hell and SUPER loud -.-; Heimer's was obnoxiously loud as was Nasus. And frankly I got tired of turning my sound down every time there was a Nasus/Garen/Heimer/Liss on the field in ARAM -.-

Weasel KenseiNov 30, 20167 votes

Posted elsewhere, copied here: TL;DR its children trying to be toxic.

I fully expect downvotes, but thats what kiddies do when someone says something other than what their thinking... that and political party fanboys.

Why remove it?

Why do it? Is it to annoy others with monotony of the spam? Well trying to annoy others is toxic. You dont think so? Then what is trying to annoy others? Trying to annoy others is just that, an attempt to put them in a negative state of mind....

So people who spam emotes are doing their best to pull off:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cVlTeIATBs

Honestly, I really dont want to hear my ADC say "You belong in a museum" twenty times a minute because they bound the taunt to their right-mouse click.

My proposal to this issue was much more punishing. I suggested that we let people hammer the taunt button as much as they like, but the have to finish the animation for each taunt they qued up. That ment you could be locked into several seconds of animation for tapping the button over and over to BM. It would also add some weight to an actual taunt because you would have to finish what you start, and it could cost you, so risk would be added.

http://imgur.com/gallery/Lalu0I2

So should we remove tools for assholes to annoy people? I dont like assholes, I dont think assholes like assholes. They just stand up for other assholes to protect their own desire to be assholes. When we let assholes unite, we just get a pile of shit. Enter references to the League community...

So while it isnt so much "offensive" for me, its annoying, and I dont need people having any more tools to be annoying shitty little pricks in this game than they already do, so if we can remove one... fuck em. Take away that annoying taunt spam.

You may now downvote you salty spamming asshole.

BigBellBruteNov 30, 20165 votes

Dar Dar Dar Dar Dar Darius!! Darius Dar Dar Darius. You're not a General. You're a butcher Dar Dar Dar Darius!!

it is annoying. But nothing is more annoying than.

You belong in a museum You belong in a museum You belong in a museum You belong in a museam.

It's not annoying when the other team is doing it. It's annoying when my team mate is doing it instead of fighting with the team.

Supreme Senpai69Nov 30, 20164 votes

It's pretty annoying and for me personally I have to turn the voices down to 0%. "You belong in a museum!" macro'd onto the Q key drives me insane. Thankfully the abusers of this aren't in the bot lane. I don't see what the issue is? They aren't removing taunts...

ARequestOfDeathNov 29, 20162 votes

Where is the evidence? Not that I am skeptical. I love taunt spamming. I just wanna know where you are getting this info.

VeltoxNov 29, 20162 votes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCVSK3kQYQk

NoblewindNov 30, 20162 votes

It's painfully obvious why they are removing it. No need for me to elaborate

WolfenstinNov 30, 20162 votes

I actually had an experience where because of some funky coding on Heimerdinger that made it even after I muted him, his stupid glitchy taunt spam got through. Same goes for Nasus and Garen .

So really, if I want to stop the dedicated players who never stop spamming, I'd have had to shut my sound off completely. No thanks, you can lose your glitchy taunt spam and work with normal taunt spam if you really need to 'tilt' people that badly.

Lt StrekoNov 29, 20161 votes

This is a huge Garen nerf!

What does riot plan to do for compensation buffs?

NiceTryViNov 29, 20164 votes

Garen's E is getting armor shred

Lt StrekoNov 29, 20164 votes

It's still not enough, and this lowers Garen's skill ceiling significantly. Only true Garen pros could spam taunt while farming creeps and killing the enemy top laner. Mastery of doing so was important for the psychological damage dealt to the enemy team.