I think I'm just going to get Phantom Dancer on all melees now
So sick of this dumb creep pathing
So sick of this dumb creep pathing
Give
collision ignore, watch as their build rate skyrockets and they become mandatory on all bruisers.
eh, i'd still get mercs or tabis on 99% of bruisers simply because of the benefits they give
but then again, i run ghost on most of them anyway
friendly unit blocking needs to be removed. it's an outdated and ridiculous concept.
enemy unit blocking can stay because it sort of makes sense
It's a remnant of DotA design. However, isn't this game trying to separate itself from DotA? I play both games, but it seems odd that they keep in the friendly minion blocking, despite getting rid of what made it useful (creep blocking to keep the wave closer to your tower). It seems like it's another thing simply kept in because of tradition or something, similar to old AP Yi and AP Tryn's ratios before the gutting of them.
And I guess so they can say that "ignores creep collision" is a digit on the power budget of items and champions.
removing it seems unwise, it's part of avoidance and engagement, and plays a value in every skill that overcomes it...
I agree I wouldn't want it removed.
removing it seems unwise, it's part of avoidance and engagement, and plays a value in every skill that overcomes it...
I'm sorry, but a 6 stack cho'gath should be able to step over that little caster minion. But, apparently caster minion can stop cho'gath. Logic. There isn't any. He gets ally minion blocked so bad.
Then the "moving through units" on
feels pretty useless in early game.

Cant find the video but there was an amazing play by a support that saved her adc from a gank by placing all her wards from her sight stone in the running path of the jungler. So i disagree with entirely removing this
How does that even work? You can move through wards; they have nothing to do with pathing.
Actually yes wards do effect movement and pathing, it can seem minute but ive seen horrific examples of people getting stuck on them, and entire pathing failures because the program took into effect a ward someone couldnt see
This sounds like a bug, not a feature.
The getting stuck on the wards is a bug, however the fact that they do occupy space and everything is coded as minions. It doesnt matter if you believe me or not, thats how it works
I agree it is so stupid to get blocked by 2 minions and just watch your stupid ass champ run back and forth... They probably shouldn't remove unit collision on allied units, but they should definitely make it so they move the f*ck out of the way when i run through them. There is a reason you are called minions and i am a champion, now get the hell out of my way and stop getting me killed you damned fodder.
Also on the note of creep pathing, anyone else noticed minions will aggro and follow you all the way to other lanes? Ive had minions follow me from Mid lane to Bottom lane, it eventually turned around, but the point is the enemy team had sight of me all through the freakin jungle because this Rambo minion from mid lane is out for my blood.
I agree it is so stupid to get blocked by 2 minions and just watch your stupid ass champ run back and forth... They probably shouldn't remove unit collision on allied units, but they should definitely make it so they move the f*ck out of the way when i run through them. There is a reason you are called minions and i am a champion, now get the hell out of my way and stop getting me killed you damned fodder.
Also on the note of creep pathing, anyone else noticed minions will aggro and follow you all the way to other lanes? Ive had minions follow me from Mid lane to Bottom lane, it eventually turned around, but the point is the enemy team had sight of me all through the freakin jungle because this Rambo minion from mid lane is out for my blood.
Minion : Reported for Verbal Abuse and Toxic
Be respect for those who died to give you dirty gold
Maybe if they would stop getting me killed i would like them more, besides its the other teams minions that die to give me gold... and im the one killing them, so i like them more then my own minions.
Phantom Dancer on all melees you say?
I don't understand...
Its
having a seizure.
I lol'd, totally saving that picture. I just know it's going to come in handy later on.
I've always imagined that it was Olaf, but Gragas could work too.
My favorite is the rare time I play Rumble, and he does a full 360 while in a minion wave. It looks so dumb and gets me so killed ;-;
nah man it ant dumb its freaking funny seeing him bug up like that xD
What minion collision?
(i am in no way advocating the use of the fish.)
I share the same sentiments tbh.. creep block is 10x worse on the new map.
This creep collision almost got me killed in a gank, it was a miracle I survived. I was fiora top playing against a Yi I think and at a certain point in our trade all I had to do was finish him off with a few autos. It was Pre 6 and my Q was on CD due to closing the gap already by having to avoid PREVIOUS creep blocking. So I try to chase but then I get stuck between a creep and the outer edge of the bush wall on blue side top lane. So then this mother fker starts coming back and im like... "It's his jungler coming ffs... FFS!" and bam a freaking Zac jumps on me while im at like half hp. How I end up winning is a stroke of luck. I Pop E, and W, hit Q and in all that mess the Yi dies and now im autoing a zac who then ends up "dying". But wait it gets better, I get stuck AGAIN and I can't reach 2 of his blobs.... so then he comes back with like 20-30% HP, I was OOM and now im like "WTTTFFF"! The creeps finally decide to let me go because their diabolical plan worked out and my death was seemingly inevitable, but jokes on them cause I got just enough Mana back to Riposte and win with 2 hp. **#thecreepstruggleisreal **
It's happened to you ONCE? I've died or missed kills sooo many times thanks to creep block which basically rooted me for a couple of seconds , it's ridiculous.
step 1. learn to play 
step 2. remember that
was hit with a nerf-hammer so hard that he will likely never be brought back unless there is a drastic change in his kit, or a change in the current meta.
step 3. never play
.
>.< THEN WHAT IS THE POINT IN LEARNING TO PLAY 
passive prevents unit collision.
(FYI if you put a backslash '' in front of '>' it will display > instead of quoting. Like so:
>.< )
yeah sorry about that was very tired when i made that post
No worries, just trying to a brother/sister out.
i was watching OGN and the koreans ban him.
Yeah, they should remove it. It's random at best.
They should make a high level utility mastery that disables unit collision, like on the 5th row
They should make a high level utility mastery that disables unit collision, like on the 5th row
Melees Bruisers with 5th row utility? Are you asking them to choose between defence and damage?
Also
bear stance... yeah.
Play Sion with
and use unstoppable force every 45 seconds. There will be no minions in your way ever again.
have fun being outdueled by everyone.
nah if things get bad i'll just run away through a creep wave and laugh as they trip over all the minions trying to chase me

WHEEEEE! I HAVE A DIVE!

There were things here? I must have missed them between the six LC$ BIgPlays I created with my dashes on the way over.
LolK.
have fun being outdueled by everyone.
implying that crit isn't one of the best stats in the game the RNG gods are to stronk
Not on a melee champ.
You either don't get enough AD to use your crit, can't survive long enough to get any crits, can get guaranteed crits without crit chance, or is named Tryndamere or Yasuo, and neither of them really care about creep blocking because of their gapclosers.
If it makes you feel any better, I got a kill under enemy inhib turret as Twitch then lost 3/4 of my health and died because of one cannon minion.
This is why creep block needs to go. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvJYzQkO6W4
If i had a nickle for every time I missed a creep because of this I would be rich. It is annoying to collide with your own creeps, and makes almost no sense mechanically to me, but the rito gods spoke it so it must be good.
passive.
You can actually use this to your advantage by causing minions to go through jungle if you stand in front of them at certain places. Minion face checks. Free vision!