inb4 Ezreal abuses new Rylais somehow and gets it gutted

Been a Talon main for 3 and a half years. I got used to the awful pre-6. I rake back line minions and try to poke at the same time as landing the cs. I generally auto front line minions with the exception of the first wave. How first waves work now have made it so that the minions all clash in a way in which all the front line minions will be low at the same time so you can rake all 3 for the first 3 cs of the game. It's super handy because level 1 when it's so even, mages will always auto you when you go for those melee minions.

Orianna ball movement is very intensive. That's most of the reason she gets respect, it however doesn't diminish that she is actually a fairly overbearing champion almost all the time and often dictates / warps a meta.

I used to main Orianna until I discovered Anivia. Just wanted to note that the double proc on Anivia's Q makes the damage the same as empowered E, and both got nerfed this year, the E twice. Anivia's damage is probably higher pre-6, but Orianna has much lower CD's, so her damage is more consistent, and her ulti provides that massive burst. Both are mana hungry, Anivia has more utility, DPS with Ulti, but Orianna can land multiple Q's to easily keep up with Anivia's ulti, and reposition easily too.

I personally prefer Anivia because I like to play utility and control, and her Wall is a massive strength that often gets overlooked, and her damaged is worked around it because of the number of plays you can do. While Orianna can hook up an ally and make those big plays and life saves, but I don't know, I just fell out of love with Orianna after years of bad junglers and getting one shot by assassins (Talon used to be an annoying one).

But I do believe with all the item changes, Orianna has slowly been getting stronger without anyone noticing, so I might pick her up again as an alternate pick to my current mains.

As someone that used to play Orianna and currently plays Ivern, keeping track of the balls position was never hard, it was just fun. Anivia's Q W combo is HARD, trying to use the wall to "reposition" the enemy to stop them dodging it requires such precision, and also taking into account other terrain to limit their escape routes and maximise your combo. But without the burst and with no mobility she becomes defenceless and most just charge at her from that point. They keep nerfing Anivia's solo trading because in high elo, her teamfight power is so abusive. But the two champs both fit into a similar niche, and it's weird that Orianna has gone unnoticed for so long, they both have similar difficulty and act as utility control mages, except ori's damage is more reliable :/