My 5-2-3 Kennen who rushed a Void Staff literally cannot damage 1-4-7 Trundle

Yenn··1 votes·840 views

How does this make any sense?

I skipped my core item (Hourglass) specifically to deal with Trundle, and it did nothing. He still ignores 100% of my damage and life steals through all of it with just Tiamat and Spirit Visage.

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Dominick Destine3 votes

Trundle is an anti-tank single target duelist. Kennen is a squishi AoE disabling teamfighter.

Outcome was obvious.

Yenn1 votes

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Trundle is an anti-tank single target duelist. Kennen is a squishi AoE disabling teamfighter.

Outcome was obvious.

Except he also shits on me in team fights by using Pillar to stop me from reaching his carries.

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I'm pretty sure any AP item (without mana) would be more effective than a first item void staff.

I mean rush as in built earlier than usual. I had Belt, Rylai, and then Void Staff, including skipping T2 boots.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

what did Trundle have?

oSEXYPLATYPUSo2 votes

Trundle 1-5-10 with item 3748 item 3111 item 3143 item 3065 item 3155 item 2033 with 22,942 damage dealt

Kennen 4-4-11 NOT 5-2-3 with item 3135 item 3152 item 3020 item 3116 item 1058 with 26,924 damage dealt

God Raijin2 votes

Now it's possible that you missplayed i dont know for sure, but think of this, If he ulted you during your lightning rush he will steal more armor and mr (the amount he steals is determined when he casts subjugate) So if you used lightning rush you get bonus armor and MR for 4 seconds, but if he subjugates you during that time , He will calculate how much he is going to steal, HOWEVER after 4 seconds that bonus armor and MR can run out for kennen.

So lets say you are 50 armor kennen and you use a rank 5 lighting rush to go up to 100 armor, Then trundle ults you, He will eventually steal 40% of that 100, in other words 40 armor is what he will steal, so he could drop you to 60 basically, but the lighting rush bonus can run out, making your armor drop to 10 FUCKING 10. in other words if you go hard on him and Use lighting rush to start a fight against him, he can turn it around on you very hard.

IRyzeForNidalee1 votes

Were you under the impression mpen was going to make him sustain less??

Yenn1 votes

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Were you under the impression mpen was going to make him sustain less??

The point here is that there is literally nothing I can build to have any level of effectiveness against him.

IRyzeForNidalee1 votes

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The point here is that there is literally nothing I can build to have any level of effectiveness against him.

I'm pretty sure any AP item (without mana) would be more effective than a first item void staff.

khorney1 votes

depends what runes u had and mastery . i wouldve gotten liandrys instead to stack the flaat magic pent

Jewlibear1 votes

Well if it was rushed first item, then it would do less damage than abyssal due to damage % over base stat, if it was mid to late game there is a few things that we need to consider. like health damage output, and mr

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

Trundle has natural sustain with his passive and more with his W active then spirit visage is op on him and who knows what masteries he ran... either 18-0-12 with vampirism, and fervor or 12-0-18 with vampirism, runic armor with runic armor it increases his self heal by 8%

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