Ok, Jayce's shockblast is just disgusting and toxic to the game, but can we please give him a proper nerf?
My suggestion is make Shockblast unable to go over walls and hit people. Similar to Graves's Q where it hits a wall, and doesn't go through.
Please do that for Jayce's shockblast.
Thank you.
Ark Sorcerer2 votesMy suggestion to his shock blast is to make it a bit narrower and do not let it explode after it further point of travel. I think having it not explode and deliver AOE damage (though the size is small) could make a difference. I don't know. I am just making things up.
Asayake 5150glow1 votes[{quoted}](name=Ark Sorcerer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QJxEPUuj,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-03-05T22:45:18.556+0000)
My suggestion to his shock blast is to make it a bit narrower and do not let it explode after it further point of travel. I think having it not explode and deliver AOE damage (though the size is small) could make a difference. I don't know. I am just making things up.
I like this one better, the explosion is the shittiest thing for me, since you dodged the projectile but lolnope you did not dodge the damage. If Jayce Q hits a wall, it should also fizzle instead of exploding because that would give him an autohit if I'm standing against a wall.
Ark Sorcerer1 votesI was honestly thinking of Ziggs when I had suggested that but Ziggs is better because you can actual go underneath it (requires good prediction, attention, skill and luck), because it is an AOE that bounces; it is not a (regular) line skill shot. With Jayce, I thought how it is worse because there is no going "underneath it" and I know how annoying it is that the furthest range was reached but the explosion got you. For a skill shot that long, you'd think it would be like Nid's spear. Imagine Nidalee's spear exploding at he end of it's longest travel! That is Jayce's Shock Blast really.
On a separate note, whose Q is more annoying Nidalee's or Jayce's E Q combo?
alfavhunter1 voteshow to 'nerf' his shockblast
it can no longer go through terrain
BUT
if it hits player made terrain it will break a SMALL hole through it (example anivia wall) [hole will be just large enough for one champion to move through at a time]
gives counter play and a buff to his utility in return
you can now hide behind tower to avoid his poke or even make a last moment 'anivia wall' to block his Q BUT he will break a hole in it to keep up the chase
it offers counter play to his poke but also buffs his ability to escape or chase by removing bits of player made walls
please note for it to break a player made wall it needs to pass through the accelerator gate to have the destructive force to break the wall
Ark Sorcerer1 votesSure why not. Q a wall and escape where the only other champion that could would be Talon. Yeah why not.
No.
Asayake 5150glow1 votes[{quoted}](name=Ark Sorcerer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QJxEPUuj,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2017-03-05T23:14:10.891+0000)
Sure why not. Q a wall and escape where the only other champion that could would be Talon. Yeah why not.
No.
(or anyone else with a dash, aka everyone, remember)
Ark Sorcerer1 votesWait! Every champion in this game has a dash?
Asayake 5150glow1 votes[{quoted}](name=Ark Sorcerer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QJxEPUuj,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2017-03-07T21:12:20.275+0000)
Wait! Every champion in this game has a dash?
Basically.
Ark Sorcerer1 votesOh. I see I am an idiot.
And this entire time I thought Anivia, Annie, Ashe, Blitzrank, Brand, Braum, Cassiopeia, Cho'Gath, Darius, Dr. Mundo, Draven, Evelynn, Ezreal, Fiddlesticks, Galieo, Gankplank, Garen, Heimerdinger, Illaoi, Janna, Jayce, Jhin, Jinx, Karma, Karthus, Kayle, Kennen, Kog'Maw, Lissandra, Lulu, Lux, Malzahar, Master Yi, Miss Fortune, Mordekaiser, Morgana, Nami, Nasus, Nunu, Olaf, Orianna, Rammus, Rumble, Ryze, Shaco, Singed, Sion, Sivir, Skarner, Sona, Soraka, Swain, Syndra, Tahm Kench, Taric, Teemo, Trundle, Twisted Fates, Twitch, Udyr, Urgot, Varus, Veigar, Vel'Koz, Viktor, Vladimir, Volibear, Xerath, Yorick, Zed, Zilean and Zyra didn't have dashes, be it a line skill shot, point and click or even AOE.
I, of course, do not include blinks as dashes so Ezreal, Fiddlesticks, Master Yi, Lissandra, Shaco and Zed are here on this list. You know, these are champs that would have no issues going throw Poppy's W using all their abilities.
And the ults of Twisted Fates and Tahm are teleports so they must be on this list.
I am bad at this game if I didn't know that all these champs had dashes. Wow.
Like, really, I must be a horrible player. I should quit.
Asayake 5150glow1 votes[{quoted}](name=Ark Sorcerer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QJxEPUuj,comment-id=000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-03-07T21:34:15.978+0000)
Oh. I see I am an idiot.
And this entire time I thought Anivia, Annie, Ashe, Blitzrank, Brand, Braum, Cassiopeia, Cho'Gath, Darius, Dr. Mundo, Draven, Evelynn, Ezreal, Fiddlesticks, Galieo, Gankplank, Garen, Heimerdinger, Illaoi, Janna, Jayce, Jhin, Jinx, Karma, Karthus, Kayle, Kennen, Kog'Maw, Lissandra, Lulu, Lux, Malzahar, Master Yi, Miss Fortune, Mordekaiser, Morgana, Nami, Nasus, Nunu, Olaf, Orianna, Rammus, Rumble, Ryze, Shaco, Singed, Sion, Sivir, Skarner, Sona, Soraka, Swain, Syndra, Tahm Kench, Taric, Teemo, Trundle, Twisted Fates, Twitch, Udyr, Urgot, Varus, Veigar, Vel'Koz, Viktor, Vladimir, Volibear, Xerath, Yorick, Zed, Zilean and Zyra didn't have dashes, be it a line skill shot, point and click or even AOE.
I, of course, do not include blinks as dashes so Ezreal, Fiddlesticks, Master Yi, Lissandra, Shaco and Zed are here on this list. You know, these are champs that would have no issues going throw Poppy's W using all their abilities.
And the ults of Twisted Fates and Tahm are teleports so they must be on this list.
I am bad at this game if I didn't know that all these champs had dashes. Wow.
Like, really, I must be a horrible player. I should quit.
Braum W is a dash, Jayce Q is a dash, Udyr Bear Stance has a dash.
But seriously, you know exactly what I mean.
Ark Sorcerer1 votesBraum... I am an idiot. Jayce and Udyr are auto attack dashes, correct, and slipped my mind. Darn me.
No I do not know what you mean.
Anivia, Annie, Ashe, Blitzrank, Brand, Cassiopeia, Cho'Gath, Darius, Dr. Mundo, Draven, Evelynn, Ezreal, Fiddlesticks, Galieo, Gankplank, Garen, Heimerdinger, Illaoi, Janna, Jhin, Jinx, Karma, Karthus, Kayle, Kennen, Kog'Maw, Lissandra, Lulu, Lux, Malzahar, Master Yi, Miss Fortune, Mordekaiser, Morgana, Nami, Nasus, Nunu, Olaf, Orianna, Rammus, Rumble, Ryze, Shaco, Singed, Sion, Sivir, Skarner, Sona, Soraka, Swain, Syndra, Tahm Kench, Taric, Teemo, Trundle, Twisted Fates, Twitch, Urgot, Varus, Veigar, Vel'Koz, Viktor, Vladimir, Volibear, Xerath, Yorick, Zed, Zilean and Zyra, as far as I know, don't have a dash.
Or I am really, really dumb at this game...
Which one?
alfavhunter1 votes[{quoted}](name=Ark Sorcerer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QJxEPUuj,comment-id=000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-03-07T21:34:15.978+0000)
Oh. I see I am an idiot.
And this entire time I thought Anivia, Annie, Ashe, Blitzrank, Brand, Braum, Cassiopeia, Cho'Gath, Darius, Dr. Mundo, Draven, Evelynn, Ezreal, Fiddlesticks, Galieo, Gankplank, Garen, Heimerdinger, Illaoi, Janna, Jayce, Jhin, Jinx, Karma, Karthus, Kayle, Kennen, Kog'Maw, Lissandra, Lulu, Lux, Malzahar, Master Yi, Miss Fortune, Mordekaiser, Morgana, Nami, Nasus, Nunu, Olaf, Orianna, Rammus, Rumble, Ryze, Shaco, Singed, Sion, Sivir, Skarner, Sona, Soraka, Swain, Syndra, Tahm Kench, Taric, Teemo, Trundle, Twisted Fates, Twitch, Udyr, Urgot, Varus, Veigar, Vel'Koz, Viktor, Vladimir, Volibear, Xerath, Yorick, Zed, Zilean and Zyra didn't have dashes, be it a line skill shot, point and click or even AOE.
I, of course, do not include blinks as dashes so Ezreal, Fiddlesticks, Master Yi, Lissandra, Shaco and Zed are here on this list. You know, these are champs that would have no issues going throw Poppy's W using all their abilities.
And the ults of Twisted Fates and Tahm are teleports so they must be on this list.
I am bad at this game if I didn't know that all these champs had dashes. Wow.
Like, really, I must be a horrible player. I should quit.
protobelt every champ has a dash
Ark Sorcerer1 votesI see am an even bigger idiot than I thought. Never once in my entire life would I consider champs like Ashe, Darius, Dr. Mundo, Draven, Ezreal, Gankplank, Garen, Illaoi, Janna, Jhin, Jinx, Kog'Maw, Master Yi, Miss Fortune, Nasus, Olaf, Rammus, Singed, Sion, Sivir, Skarner, Trundle, Twitch, Urgot, Varus, Volibear, Yorick, and Zed to even consider Hextexh Proto-belt.
I have so much to learn. I am a bigger idiot than I thought!!!
alfavhunter1 votes[{quoted}](name=Ark Sorcerer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QJxEPUuj,comment-id=00010000000000000000000000010000,timestamp=2017-03-08T03:16:18.679+0000)
I see am an even bigger idiot than I thought. Never once in my entire life would I consider champs like Ashe, Darius, Dr. Mundo, Draven, Ezreal, Gankplank, Garen, Illaoi, Janna, Jhin, Jinx, Kog'Maw, Master Yi, Miss Fortune, Nasus, Olaf, Rammus, Singed, Sion, Sivir, Skarner, Trundle, Twitch, Urgot, Varus, Volibear, Yorick, and Zed to even consider Hextexh Proto-belt.
I have so much to learn. I am a bigger idiot than I thought!!!
i iddnt say it was optimal, but if they feel they need a dash they can build it
also its not a bad item on Janna, Kog'Maw, Rammus,Singed, Sion, and Varus if you are building them AP, which works , its not the BEST build but it works
heck even AP ashe can work as her ult has AP scaling, she brings a lot of utility, has decent waveclear, and litch bane can make her R+AA HURT, even more so if her passive comes into play with the litch bane AA
again im not saying its an optimal item for them, but its also not so bad if they need a dash as it can be used offensively or defensibly
i have personally built it on janna a few times for the purpose of being a little more tanky and easier reposition for my R, without losing ap and still getting some much needed CDR, sure its not optimal every game, but there are games its very useful, exspecially vs skilll shot comps that you can use the belt not for damage but to simply dodge a HUGE chunk of the enemy burst, or add in a bit of extra damage
Ark Sorcerer1 votesSo much to learn!!
Teach this idiotic and effective methods on this totally Meta builds. I am such a fool.
Teach me Master!
alfavhunter1 votes[{quoted}](name=Ark Sorcerer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QJxEPUuj,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2017-03-05T23:14:10.891+0000)
Sure why not. Q a wall and escape where the only other champion that could would be Talon. Yeah why not.
No.
not every wall works AND he lets EVERYONE follow through the hole AND it requires 2 spells to do so which are in turn a LARGE amount of his burst
with acceleration gate's CD being noticeably long it would be a good counter balance to his noticeable nerf by giving him a lot more counter play against him but also opening up counter play vs certain champions.
again i will sate it ONLY breaks player made terrain, not all terrain, requires 2 spells, and is given at the cost of his poke having MUCH more counter play
Ark Sorcerer1 votesPlayer made terrain...? Sooo.... Taliyah's Ult, Trundle's E and Anvia's... wall (don't know which key).
alfavhunter1 votes[{quoted}](name=Ark Sorcerer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QJxEPUuj,comment-id=0001000000010000,timestamp=2017-03-07T21:11:20.167+0000)
Player made terrain...? Sooo.... Taliyah's Ult, Trundle's E and Anvia's... wall (don't know which key).
yes only player made terrain would break and it would require 2 spells to do so, it gives him some unique utility in retunr for opening a LOT of counter play vs jayce
also as a side not what im suggesting used to be in game as a bug with 
's Q close to her release
Ark Sorcerer1 votesI think that having champion to champion chemistry is fine but having Jayce have chemistry with three characters for literally no reason other than it is a cool concept is not helping anything; especially seeing how low the chances are with said chemistry.
If it was lore, then fine, but ability chemistry for this is nothing more than a cool concept that achieves little, if anything. Not to bash on your idea or anything.
Wînter Fox1 voteshttp://champion.gg/champion/Jayce/Top Win Rate 48.80% Play Rate 7.49% Ban Rate 3.87%
Why are we nerfing Jayce again?
