I thought Jhin's weakness was supposed to be his immobility. So why does he have more base move speed than 
? The other ADC's that also have 330 or that outclass him are 
who all use their mobility to get in and out of a fight.
EDIT: Poor 
also has 325 move speed. :(
MrHaZeYo22 votesAshe slows people down. Corki, Cait, EZ, Kali, Kind, and Trist have mobility spells.
So Kog and Jinx are the only real slow imboile ADs but they are hyper carries.
Blakiepug22 votesAshe slows people down. Corki, Cait, EZ, Kali, Kind, and Trist have mobility spells.
So Kog and Jinx are the only real slow imboile ADs but they are hyper carries.
What does being a hyper carry have to do with it? Vayne, Sivir, and Twitch are all hyper carries and they have more than 325 move speed.
Also, both Jinx and Jhin get mobility from their passive. Jhin gets access to his more frequently. And Jhin can slow people too with his traps similar to Ashe.
MrHaZeYo10 votesNot as Frequent as Ashe (slow).
I really don't considered those 3 as much of hyper carries as Jinx or Kog. Idk though I don't come up with there stats.
Blakiepug14 votesNot as Frequent as Ashe (slow).
I really don't considered those 3 as much of hyper carries as Jinx or Kog. Idk though I don't come up with there stats.
True, but he does get to hold multiple charges for his slow and has a stun in addition. The two champs seem really similar to me in terms of kit capabilities which is why I decided to ask about the move speed. I'm genuinely curious as to how this things are decided. At first I thought maybe it was because he was a newer champion and 330 was the new baseline for move speed but then I saw that both Kindred and Kalista have 325 move speed still so I'm not really sure.
MrHaZeYo11 votesIdk, Ashe can perma slow, its more readily available then Jhins, as he has to lay them like traps and hope you walk over them.
They both do have stuns but Jhins is more conditional.
Jhin has slow AS, slow reload. Ashe has crazy AS (late game), and hits multi pal targets.
The true difference though is one is a mid game champ (Jihn) where as the other is a late game Champ (Ashe). Both utility oriented. Which is why before Leth was buffed on 7.3 we saw Ashe and Varus as the top two ADCs because they can kill tanks late game and have utility. Jhin was the 3rd AD but he wasn't nearly as strong as the former two.
THE RlVER KlNG10 votesJhin has been the #1 ADC for almost a year now
MF and Varus are below him and have always been
Looknook3 votesHe may have been the most played but he was never the best ADC.
THE RlVER KlNG7 votesMF and Varus can do things that Jhin cannot but he is overloaded and way too much of a generalist to pass up - he is an early game bully with a strong midgame and a godly late. Pick/ban in pro play and has shoved out a lot of hypercarry picks he can safely assassinate from huge range lategame.
His pick rate has gone down but only because his skin hype has too and people are rushing to abuse the new BotRK and Warlord's, which is good on Vayne/Jinx/Caitlyn etc.
MrHaZeYo3 votesVarus and Ashe were the best ADs because of there utility and late game presence, then when Leth was buffed Jhin came back into the mix and MF started seeing play as a ADC instead of only support.
I'm not saying Jhin was never not good, but he wasn't as good as Ashe and Varus simply because he had to build more of the Crit build. The start of this season it was the "ADC in 2017 lul" meme and Ashe/Varus were useful basically due to the utility they had.
Also Varus has been Pick/Ban in Pro for the entirety of this split.
Chembaron Yamada5 votesBecause Kalista and Kindred both have a spammable mobility spell in their kit. Kalista can dash every time she auto attacks. Kindred has a dash with really short CD as long as you are in the wolf zone.
Their slow base movement speed is to compensate their spammable mobility. Just like Talon has low base MS because of his spammable wall jump.
World Ender4 votesHe had 325 on release. He got a 5 MS buff when Swiftness boots got nerfed multiple times back in S6.
DunkinNoobs4 votesHe had 325 on release. He got a 5 MS buff when Swiftness boots got nerfed multiple times back in S6.
Finally someone with an actual answer.
resumed5 votesAshe slows people down.
?? jhin has a 2500 range root as well as being able to slow people
MissingKayo2 votesOnly if they're dumb enough to get hit by such a thin and broadcasted skillshot blockable by literally any other champion.
And the slow is only if they manage to step on one of his traps.
Ashe slows on every auto and ability.
resumed6 votesim pretty sure if it was as hard to hit as you're making it out to be then jhin wouldn't be nearly as good as he is
fuffychan17 votesBecause he lacks invisible slowing tra-
Because he lacks a speed boost from auto at-
Because he lacks CC-
Because hes short ran-
Alright I cant figure it out either.
MissingKayo7 votes[deleted]
Warlord Scrap9 votesMaybe he coulda posted it better but he sorta is right he doesnt need the extra 5 movespeed.
MadManApocalypse8 votesYes, he needs the extra FOUR move speed.
Blakiepug7 votesYes, he needs the extra FOUR move speed.
Lol, they should make that a thing where all of Jhin's base stats end in 4 just to tie in with the character.
MadManApocalypse2 votesLol, they should make that a thing where all of Jhin's base stats end in 4 just to tie in with the character.
Balancing would be a pain then lol.
BLACK REALM GOD5 votesi posted my explanation. you can read it to see if you agree or disagree.
DarkLordArbitur11 votesWhy doesn't Jhin have 4 ms?
GigglesO8 votes 325 ahhh yea
fuffychan7 votesEvery post in this thread is +4 or -4. As Im typing this 24 comments and 4 NEW. wtf
Pandemic Punch6 votesThis thread has 4 upvotes.
Blakiepug6 votes[{quoted}](name=Tarics Gemstones,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QEEowmMt,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2017-03-12T07:14:35.014+0000)
This thread has 4 upvotes.
Lol, how I wish I had a dollar for every Jhin thread and comment with 4 upvotes.
Pandemic Punch7 votesProbably $44,444 is how much you would earn.
fuffychan6 votes5 4's?
Blasphemy
Pandemic Punch4 votesRich lyfe is hard lyfe
Yaśuo Main6 votesI mean, is 5 more MS that bad?
Blakiepug6 votes[{quoted}](name=Yaśuo Main,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QEEowmMt,comment-id=000d,timestamp=2017-03-12T12:07:55.066+0000)
I mean, is 5 more MS that bad?
It's unnecessary. Katarina just recently had her base magic resist stat lowered because it was higher than other mid laners. In Kat's case, this higher magic resist flew directly in the face of her intended weakness. She's supposed to be a high risk, high reward champion going into a fight. With Jhin, his big intended weakness is supposed to be his lack of mobility. He already has a move speed steroid on his passive, so why does he have 5 more move speed than the other immobile marksmen who don't.
Admiralhaddi6 votes
Cries at corner
ProfDrDeath5 votesFinally someone who says it and does not get immediately downvoted.
Also, all the other long-range ADCs save Twitch and Varus have 325 base MS. And Twitch's higher base can be explained by him only being able to really do stuff when auto-attacking people, unlike Cait, Ashe or Jinx which have longer-ranged immediate damage skillshots, and only his ult giving him the super long range.
resumed4 votesbecause his passive's passive's passives' passives movement speed increase isnt enough
PaladinNO4 votesHe should only have 320 MS - because 4.
TyrekGoldenspear4 votesAgreed. He should have 324 movespeed.
Jofeyy4 votesJust playing devil's advocate just to see what riot may have been thinking
Could become a terrifying kite monster
Good point
Has a dash on his W (although I love how **flying ** champs ie. 
have the slowest movespeed...)
Has E blink and blink > dash in champ power
Has ramping speed on kills/assists/structures destoryed
Hops around, doesn't really need to walk in combat
Good point
Good point
Good point
Has E hop although if you ask me movespeed is the least of her worries.
Feelsbadman 
AninLegions7773 votesCos Jhin has a 4-shot limit. This alone is a HEAVY handicap in itself because to deal dmg while he reloads, he has to stand still for a while. Also by that logic, Lee and Yi shouldn't have the base MS they have.
Blakiepug5 votesCos Jhin has a 4-shot limit. This alone is a HEAVY handicap in itself because to deal dmg while he reloads, he has to stand still for a while. Also by that logic, Lee and Yi shouldn't have the base MS they have.
You should read the Riot article they posted about a month ago in Nexus discussing the new champions released in 2016. In it they specifically discuss how Jhin's intended weaknesses of the 4-shot limit and his fixed auto-speed don't actually handicap him due to his ability to use spells while reloading and therefore always putting out a constant stream of damage. Why should Lee and Yi have lower move speed? Yi is all about going head first into a fight and Lee Sin focuses on re-positioning and getting into a fight to knock someone out of position with his ult. Both Lee and Yi need a higher move speed to go into a fight. Jhin doesn't, he's supposed to help from the sidelines with autos or from afar with his huge range.
Stars Shaper2 votes and mobility in the same sentence.
There is a glitch in the Matrix.
Edit:
Jhin is far less mobile of the listed ADC that have less run speed. Ashe has a perma slow, Kog also has a long range AoE slow, MF/Jinx hav runspeed passive and all the others have jumps.
Nymzo2 votesBe lucky that his base movement speed is not 444.
Edit: Lol dunno why the downvotes, are jokes only allowed in M&G?
xWaters2 votesFunny! Super good one! Fours are hilarious!!
ExcusemeFellows4 votesBe lucky that his base movement speed is not 444.
At least is not 4444. Ok, shutting up now.
hi im alphonse1 votesah youre right, he should have 444 MS
TyrekGoldenspear2 votes3 4s is heresy.
4444 or nothing.
The Ecdysiast4 votes444.4, but the game shows 444 because that rounds down.
BladeSingularity4 votespoke
I agree.
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