Karma's mantra E gives the same amount of movement speed as sivir ult just for shorter duration but also providing an aoe shied, while also having much shorter cd and on a support champion......doesn't this kind of destroys the uniqueness and value of sivir's ultimate?
Quepha2 votes[{quoted}](name=The Deckowner,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QEBoQdVq,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-06-05T20:43:30.148+0000)
Karma's mantra E gives the same amount of movement speed as sivir ult just for shorter duration
So Sivir's ult is better for catching enemies and rotating
Also Karma is a completely different champion who goes in completely different positions than Sivir.
Knight Sky1 votesI see your point here, although its her ult impowering her E that does that which is why its fairly powerful. And other champs do have similar ablities, for example sivir's Q is identical to Ahri's Q. And not only does the movement speed last longer for sivirs ult but the aoe of it is huge compared to karmas. So yes they are similar but i dont think its overshadowing sivirs ult at all (:
TNHA Baritone1 votesWhen you say that X ability overshadows Y ability, you should ask yourself, why pick X instead of Y. Clearly you don't pick Sivir JUST for her ult. You pick Sivir for her AOE crit dmg and sure, she has her ult.
The Last Ballad1 votesSiver's ult give movement speed to those who she reaches/ reaches her(somehow) Karma's doesn't.
Sylverblitz1 votesDon't forget that Sivir's ult also gives minions a movement speed boost too. Handy for shoving waves and it even works when you're running away.
LightIsMyPath1 votesNah it just enforce it.. Sivir and karma bot-lane is hylarious
