Don't abuse your AD Carries for 'not being able to kite' when you don't even peel.

ABlueQuaker··29 votes·2,258 views

I just had an Enemy Amumu abuse his AD Carries in post-game chat after an ARAM because I was zoning them as DrMundo with item 3111 item 3143 item 3751 item 3110 item 3065 item 3075 and summoner 14 summoner 4.

There was no way that they could deal with me as Physical Damage Dealers, yet the Enemy Amumu, Galio and Lee Sin left me to completely nullify their presence by zoning them every teamfight.

Don't abuse your AD Carries if you don't even have the decency to peel for them.

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manliestdino9 votes

It also goes the other way. Don't blame me for not peeling when your positioning in a teamfight is shit.

A Bad Janna1 votes

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It also goes the other way. Don't blame me for not peeling when your positioning in a teamfight is shit.

ABlueQuaker4 votes

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Trebbi5 votes

Yes, kiting works to some degree, but you need peel because many adcs dont have dashes or the mobility to pull it off versus a enemy who can effectivally close the gap and kill them like Riven or Irelia

If you don't peel your just as bad as the adc who doesn't kite.

ABlueQuaker2 votes

Yeah. I had a game earlier as Draven and, while his W provides decent mobility in a team fight, he has no True Escape and I had a fairly fed Jax constantly jumping on me. I was able to interrupt his Leap quite a few times, but ultimately I had to invest in Distortion Enchantment on my Boots fairly early and I even got a Randuin's because I was forced to self-peel.

Instead, my team should have been perfectly capable of keeping the Jax off me considering the amount of CC they had.

That said, when they did start to peel for me I was appreciative and did my part to Kite and maintain my DPS. Eventually their Jax had a sook because he couldn't kill me anymore.

BlacksSmokeCrack4 votes

late game an ADC shouldn't really have a problem assuming he is actually attacking moving rather than standing still and auoting you.

Late game ADC should pretty much be able to kite everything as long as they don't die instantly to insane assassin burst because they're ranged, they have lifesteal, and they have crits.

If the ADC is failing to kite, the ADC is being bad.

ABlueQuaker18 votes

No. If the Enemy team has a threatening Front Line, your job if you have any CC or Utility in your kit/items is to keep your AD Carry Healthy and safe so they can maintain their DPS.

If you think your AD Carry should be able to kite a 6 item Tank or a 6 Item Assassin just because they have 6 items, you have no idea how to play LoL. If anything, it's even MORE important to peel for your AD Carry in the Late game because they'll have a much longer and therefore much more punishing Death Timer.

BlacksSmokeCrack2 votes

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No. If the Enemy team has a threatening Front Line, your job if you have any CC or Utility in your kit/items is to keep your AD Carry Healthy and safe so they can maintain their DPS.

If you think your AD Carry should be able to kite a 6 item Tank or a 6 Item Assassin just because they have 6 items, you have no idea how to play LoL. If anything, it's even MORE important to peel for your AD Carry in the Late game because they'll have a much longer and therefore much more punishing Death Timer.

What? An ADC can kite an assassin stupidly easily if they don't get 100-0'd instantly.

ADC's have range advantage, and usually an escape as well as flash.

Not to mention they crit for 1k every .4 seconds and heal up to full after 4 autos.

If the ADC doesn't die instantly, and they can't kite it's their fault entirely.

maximumspeed027 votes

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What? An ADC can kite an assassin stupidly easily if they don't get 100-0'd instantly.

ADC's have range advantage, and usually an escape as well as flash.

Not to mention they crit for 1k every .4 seconds and heal up to full after 4 autos.

If the ADC doesn't die instantly, and they can't kite it's their fault entirely.

LOL this is funny. You act like ADCs are the gods of the current meta. Yeah try kiting any of these guys with full build Alistar Amumu Braum Chogath DrMundo Garen Gnar Gragas Hecarim Irelia JarvanIV Jax Leona Maokai Nautilus Nasus Nunu Olaf Rammus RekSai Sejuani Shen Sion Singed Shyvana Skarner Tryndamere TahmKench Trundle Udyr Volibear MonkeyKing Yorick Zac then talk to us. Wait that's right you don't even play ADC.

Kaelnor3 votes

Don't forget Ahri Akali Diana Malphite Olaf Riven Pantheon Vi Yasuo LeeSin Fizz Ekko. Those Slows, CCs, and Gap Closers hurt like a bitch, and then the damage...

EvilRabbitt1 votes

Why does no one think ofFiora ?

Only Play Darius3 votes

Because she's so far out of the meta. She's a shitty version of MasterYi

Kaelnor1 votes

Exactly, which is why I didn't even bother buying her on sale last month when I already have Master Yi. Her Ult isn't even that good...

AFK Push1 votes

Even Tryndamere does her job much better. If she doesn't snowball she is useless, trynd has that lategame doe.

Kaelnor1 votes

Because Fiora needs a rework badly. Yeah gap close nation like some of the others, but no damn CC, relies on her ult to kill, and even some ADCs like Vayne , Tristana , Caitlyn , and Ezreal would destroy her in a duel piss easy. She has no real kit.

IcyPepper8 votes

Aka: it's a team game, everybody has to do their job and compensate for everyone's weaknesses.

crunchymunchys2 votes

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late game an ADC shouldn't really have a problem assuming he is actually attacking moving rather than standing still and auoting you.

Late game ADC should pretty much be able to kite everything as long as they don't die instantly to insane assassin burst because they're ranged, they have lifesteal, and they have crits.

If the ADC is failing to kite, the ADC is being bad.

Mundo sees good adc. Mundo don't care he go where he pleases and that means all over your adc and the next squishy to the adc. Mundo is a adc killer, and will completely destroy almost all adc's when they both have full builds because of his ulti out healing the damage the adc can dish out while doing a megaton of it with his q w and e (e gives him 80 base ad at lvl 5, and gives more based on missing health).

ABlueQuaker1 votes

Yeah. I was killing both the Enemy Ashe and the Enemy Sivir when their team wasn't peeling for them.

Slamurai Jack3 votes

That's why I love playing DrMundo against teams that actually think their adc should be able to kite you by themselves. The only adc that can do that is Vayne or a really fed Kalista. The rest are easy prey.

Axrios2 votes

then the adc shouldn't abuse your support or jungler if your garbage and go in 1v5 and lose lane then. talking to those doublelift wannabes

KatCraft2 votes

Playing ADC is the most thankless role in the game. If your support isn't playing well and lose lane the ADC gets blamed, and if you get dived and bursted down because your team doesn't peel, they throw out "stop being out of position" even though they all leave you to chase the LeeSin while there Hecarim jumps on you uncontested.

Lucent Rengar1 votes

Funniest conversation i saw in solo Q

Vayne i have no peel. Morgana wtf? you're a tumbling champ. you're asking for peel with a tumbling champ.....fml

ABlueQuaker1 votes

Yeah, some champions are less team-reliant when it comes to kiting and peeling but only to an extent.

Vayne and Kalista can cope better than others but a squishy ADC is still just a squishy ADC regardless of how many Dashes or Blinks they have.

grumpyfrogy1 votes

the opposite applys as well...

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