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A Real Yas Nerf

The Dreamwalker··2 votes·555 views

So, I came up with an idea for an acutal Yasuo nerf. The current one isn't really a nerf. It is the same amount of time that Xayah has with her feathers to fight back, so not really a nerf. Anyways, here are my ideas.

  1. Reveal his dash timer cooldown to enemies. This allows enemies to see if he can engage or not, and if he can engage directly on them.
  2. Debuff his passive. Why does he need doubled critical strike chance and a shield? This is just like Tryndamere, which is why it is so annoying. Either nerf the chance or remove it. Or, debuff the shield. I mean, it would be better if he only had a shield, or only had the critical chance. Also, removing the shield would still leave him with his OP windwall, which is a great shield.
  3. Remove windwall's growing attribute. The fact that it can block an MF ult (which is about the widest ability in game), is pretty stupid. Or better yet, make not able to block ults.
  4. (For Caitlyn's sake) Remove his interaction with item 3046 on his tornadoes.

That is about it.

4 Comments

Takazaki3 votes

First off why does yasuo need nerfs?

and now about you're actual post

  1. ive been saying this forever, there is really no reason why the enemy should not be able to see yasuo's minion cooldowns. it always good for more interactive gameplay as they can pro-activly predict yasuo's mobility which is fair.

  2. yasuo needs double crit change because other wise he will build tank, its called incentive to build damage. without it tank yasuo comes back. the shield is because ( and i don't know how many times i have to say this ) he has some of, if not the weakest defensive stats of any slayer without it yasuo straight up dies to anything and is an auto lose laner. windwall is not a shield and MANY things work past it, its on a 20 second cooldown as well so its only fair that yasuo be allowed to farm/trade every 20 seconds, that's literally backwards as he is suppose to be a high tempo champion ( like riven)?

  3. again 20 second cooldown, why is anyone burning ults when you know the windwall isnt on cooldown, you're basically calling it unfair that its able to do its job when used properly. just because something is an ultimate doesnt mean ti gets special ability treatment. you know what else blocks ults? spell shields, but i dont see anyone complain that they can do that, why? because you dont ult a spell shield.

  4. removing that nerfs him in what manner? the movement speed or the 20% damage reduction? its not a problematic interaction like cait and hurricane. so why bother to change it?

The Dreamwalker1 votes

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First off why does yasuo need nerfs?

It's because he is too safe and too oppressive. He has the mobility, the safety, the damage. There is nothing he lacks. The reason Caitlyn got the double whammy was because she had too few weaknesses. The same can be said with the cancer that is Yasuo.

and now about you're actual post

  1. ive been saying this forever, there is really no reason why the enemy should not be able to see yasuo's minion cooldowns. it always good for more interactive gameplay as they can pro-activly predict yasuo's mobility which is fair.

If you don't know what minion he actually hit, you won't be able to know exactly where he is heading. If people could see the cooldowns, then maybe the interaction part of your comment would be there. Also, he has the same problems that make most people annoying. Namely Ahri. He is a very safe champion, with very heavy damage. He has three things to keep him safe, along with the combined power of his passive and Q.

  1. yasuo needs double crit change because other wise he will build tank, its called incentive to build damage. without it tank yasuo comes back. the shield is because ( and i don't know how many times i have to say this ) he has some of, if not the weakest defensive stats of any slayer without it yasuo straight up dies to anything and is an auto lose laner. windwall is not a shield and MANY things work past it, its on a 20 second cooldown as well so its only fair that yasuo be allowed to farm/trade every 20 seconds, that's literally backwards as he is suppose to be a high tempo champion ( like riven)?

He wouldn't straight up die. He has a windwall, remember? Also, I feel this shield is overkill. If it only blocked an ability's damage, but didn't overshield him too, then it would be better. Also, if they took away his ability to have double crit, people would still build it because of the interaction it has with his Q. That is enough incentive.

  1. again 20 second cooldown, why is anyone burning ults when you know the windwall isnt on cooldown, you're basically calling it unfair that its able to do its job when used properly. just because something is an ultimate doesnt mean ti gets special ability treatment. you know what else blocks ults? spell shields, but i dont see anyone complain that they can do that, why? because you dont ult a spell shield.

Spell shields block one ability, Yas' wall blocks everything that gets thrown at it. Additionally, it makes for very hard laning phase. Since he can just pop it over the minions and prevent the enemy laner from getting cs. I'm calling it unfair because it blocks everything. It likes an enlarge Fio W or E (not sure which is Rip.). If the wall didn't block everything of an ability, then maybe it would be fair. Such not block cc parts of abilities. Also, it is a shield. The definition of a shield is something that protects you from harm. That is what this windwall does. Also, he is already super safe. If someone pops his passive, he can retreat behind a windwall and build it back up. Also, he has a double shield on his passive. One blocks an ability's damage, the second gives him some damage blocking power. Fair, totally.

  1. removing that nerfs him in what manner? the movement speed or the 20% damage reduction? its not a problematic interaction like cait and hurricane. so why bother to change it?

He can weaken people from afar, which cans their ability to duel him as he closes in. The reason I said to remove this is because it is an AoE basic attack that spreads the effects of item 3046. Cait got hers removed because she was dealing AoE damage at a super heavy rate.

Takazaki1 votes

It's because he is too safe and too oppressive. He has the mobility, the safety, the damage. There is nothing he lacks. The reason Caitlyn got the double whammy was because she had too few weaknesses. The same can be said with the cancer that is Yasuo.

LMAO WHAT, you realize the reason why yasuo isnt banned in higher elo is because he isnt safe at all

you wanna know yasuo's weakness? poke his shield with an AA. he has the worst base stats of any slayer you will almost always outtrade yasuo without his shield.

If you don't know what minion he actually hit, you won't be able to know exactly where he is heading. If people could see the cooldowns, then maybe the interaction part of your comment would be there. Also, he has the same problems that make most people annoying. Namely Ahri. He is a very safe champion, with very heavy damage. He has three things to keep him safe, along with the combined power of his passive and Q.

refer to my other comment on yasuo not being safe at all

He wouldn't straight up die. He has a windwall, remember? Also, I feel this shield is overkill. If it only blocked an ability's damage, but didn't overshield him too, then it would be better. Also, if they took away his ability to have double crit, people would still build it because of the interaction it has with his Q. That is enough incentive.

  1. yes he would remember worst base stats of any slayer .
  2. windwall Viktor Akali Darius Camille Fiora Fizz Garen XinZhao Vi Tryndamere Riven Kled Jax Irelia Malzahar Kennen Diana doesnt stop everything, stop acting like its a all mighty shield. its not.
  3. Top lane yasuo when it came out didnt build crit unless snowballing so no people wont build crit, they will build item 3078 or item 3071 then item 3022 .

Spell shields block one ability, Yas' wall blocks everything that gets thrown at it. Additionally, it makes for very hard laning phase. Since he can just pop it over the minions and prevent the enemy laner from getting cs. I'm calling it unfair because it blocks everything. It likes an enlarge Fio W or E (not sure which is Rip.). If the wall didn't block everything of an ability, then maybe it would be fair. Such not block cc parts of abilities. Also, it is a shield. The definition of a shield is something that protects you from harm. That is what this windwall does. Also, he is already super safe. If someone pops his passive, he can retreat behind a windwall and build it back up. Also, he has a double shield on his passive. One blocks an ability's damage, the second gives him some damage blocking power. Fair, totally.

If yasuo uses windwall to stop you from Csing... you shouldnt be losing that lane. 20 second cooldown to deny you 2 farm. you could pratically staight up kill him for playing that if you rely on skill shots. it block everything when it thrown out. so here is a thought, *dont throw out ults or important cooldowns at windwall yes it totally safe considering they gut his stats because of it making so if you dont play to yasuo's advantage he practically just auto loses.

He can weaken people from afar, which cans their ability to duel him as he closes in. The reason I said to remove this is because it is an AoE basic attack that spreads the effects of . Cait got hers removed because she was dealing AoE damage at a super heavy rate.

kite backwards if he is hitting you with tornado you should have more then enough time to kit backwards (also maybe you shouldn't be trying to duel someone who is really good at dueling unless your also really good at it)

and no cait got her interaction removed because she was dealing her damage way earlier then any other adc not because it was to much damage.

The Dreamwalker1 votes

{quoted}

LMAO WHAT, you realize the reason why yasuo isnt banned in higher elo is because he isnt safe at all

you wanna know yasuo's weakness? poke his shield with an AA. he has the worst base stats of any slayer you will almost always outtrade yasuo without his shield.

That requires you to get close to Yasuo, which in most cases is a fatal choice. Sure, until he gets item 3046. Also, he may have bad base stats, but according to my research, he scales pretty well.

refer to my other comment on yasuo not being safe at all

Only he is. If you get close to aa, then he can quickly retaliate during the shield after it breaks. Example 1: A ranged character (let say Lux) super weak against him. Example 2: A melee champion (let's say Fizz) they have to get in close, which can lead to their death. Additionally, Fizz's ult can be blocked by Yasuo's windwall.

  1. yes he would remember worst base stats of any slayer .

Base stats mean nothing. It is the scaling that matters the most of any champion. Lux has the WORST starting health of any and all champions. Yet, she scales really well and is able to out put high damage. Also, her low base health is cleaned up as she scales through levels.

  1. windwall Viktor Akali Darius Camille Fiora Fizz Garen XinZhao Vi Tryndamere Riven Kled Jax Irelia Malzahar Kennen Diana doesnt stop everything, stop acting like its a all mighty shield. its not.

If I were acting, you would most definitely know. I believe and know that these shields are OP. Also, take a second and re-look at those champions you selected. Fizz's damage on his passive negated by Yasuo's passive. Fizz's fish can be avoided / blocked by windwall. Irelia can be blocked with her damage on her W. If Yasuo throws up a windwall during Irelia's ult, then she will have to save it which could lead to getting timed out. Kennen has skillshot abilities that are projectiles. A lot of those champions you picked can be blocked with Windwall and/or his passive. The only one I agree with his Tryndamere, but that is because he is the only one I find that can kill that champion.

It may not seem like much, but that second or two that Yasuo gets from his passive of safety, is a game changing / fight changing ability that needs to be looked at.

  1. Top lane yasuo when it came out didnt build crit unless snowballing so no people wont build crit, they will build item 3078 or item 3071 then item 3022 .

If yasuo uses windwall to stop you from Csing... you shouldnt be losing that lane. 20 second cooldown to deny you 2 farm. you could pratically staight up kill him for playing that if you rely on skill shots.

No, you honestly couldn't because he still has he power to escape you. Also, during the windwall, he can build up a tornado to delay you even further.

it block everything when it thrown out. so here is a thought, *dont throw out ults or important cooldowns at windwall

Look, I'm not stupid, no need to act like it. I'm not gonna go "Ah ha, I will just ult you behind a windwall (evil laughter)." But, the fact still stands. A teammates useful is negated as long as he holds windwall. Ashe, Caitlyn, Ezreal, Miss Fortune, etc. the adcs don't matter for as long as he holds that windwall. CC supports like Morgana have their useful cc (Q) with a chance to be negated. Ranged top laners like Teemo and Rumble can be blocked or knocked down a tad. JGs like Elise and Ivern can blocked. People shouldn't have to fear the windwall or be made useless because he uses one power, and once that ability is gone then Yasuo can go in without the fear of being cc'ed by Morgana, Lux, Elise, etc.

yes it totally safe considering they gut his stats because of it making so if you dont play to yasuo's advantage he practically just auto loses.

Since when did they gut him?

kite backwards if he is hitting you with tornado you should have more then enough time to kit backwards (also maybe you shouldn't be trying to duel someone who is really good at dueling unless your also really good at it)

No, not really. If he can travel faster than a MF with a maxed W and maxed boots just by dashing through minions, there is really no time to kite. Also, that advice only really works for ranged characters. Melee characters have to get in ranged.

and no cait got her interaction removed because she was dealing her damage way earlier then any other adc not because it was to much damage.

And what? Yasuo doesn't get his damage earlier than most mid laners? He literally gets item 3046 and item 3031 and he is dealing way too much damage, way too early in the game. The same way Caitlyn used to be.

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