Petition to have the First Win of the Day Bonus Reset at Midnight

The Dreamwalker·Apr 14, 2017·240 votes·4,559 views

Title. Basically, we shouldn't have to wait 24 hours to get the bonus. It should just reset at midnight, thus making it another day. Makes sense imo. Anyone agree?

51 Comments

Velzard of KozApr 14, 201733 votes

You don't wait 24 hours, just 22. I am not sure whther it would be that helpful, but as long as people want it, it certainly won't hurt me so I'll support you.

Skins ProjectApr 15, 20177 votes

22 hours is nice because realistically your not going to get the first win the SAME TIME every day. Always gonna be a delay even if by 10 minutes. So your daily bonus keeps getting delayed before you more or less miss a day and then it resets. So there's normally a small grace period.

KidKaiserApr 14, 201713 votes

pretty sure it's always been 22hrs between First Wins. 12/24hr time restrictions are so fken terribad, i cri.

D3m37r1Apr 14, 201712 votes

I agree. Would be more helpful for people that can't play games at a specific time everyday(aka the ones that need the bonus ip the most). While not having any impact on the rest of people.

Sona PingApr 15, 20171 votes

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I agree. Would be more helpful for people that can't play games at a specific time everyday(aka the ones that need the bonus ip the most). While not having any impact on the rest of people.

That's not correct. For those with varying schedules, yes, the current system may be inconvenient and delay the bonus for them. However under this proposed change, it will screw over those who play late in the day near whatever time it resets based on the what the arbitrarily chosen time-zone calls for.

Rather than having the First Win bonus wait for players so they can collect it at their convenience, this is a change that will cause players to lose out on bonuses entirely, and this will include those people with varying schedules that can't play games at a specific time everyday as well.

Supreme Senpai69Apr 15, 20171 votes

Extremely worst case scenario you're waiting max 24 hours. Best case scenario you're waiting like 20 minutes. Think the trade off is vastly worth it

D3m37r1Apr 15, 20171 votes

They could also change it to first match of the day. This way it can count from when the match started and not ended.

Dr PoroApr 15, 20172 votes

In the current system, you're losing time whenever you can't get it within the 2 hours after it's available. It's extremely frustrating when you lose 5 games in a row because you're constantly losing out on parts of the FWOTD bonus. The proposed system would result in way more ip earned overall and way less frustration. Don't forget that if you play around the reset, you'll often have the bonus right after the reset anyways so you're rarely in the position where you need to get it before a certain deadline. There are many games with a specific reset time on dailies and I enjoy them much more (I mean those dailies, not those games.)

Lord GalvatronApr 14, 201711 votes

The problem is that your assuming everyone who plays this game has the same exact sleep/awake schedule. A 22 hour wait for FWD regardless of the actual time is far more accommodating to it's players as a whole.

FaustavianApr 14, 20174 votes

This guy^

WimbledofyApr 14, 20174 votes

with it resetting at midnight every night it doesn't matter what your schedule is. If you play at the same time every day you will get your win of the day every day (assuming you win). If it doesn't reset at midnight, then those who play at different times may not get the win of the day as often. There is no problem in what he is assuming because he isn't assuming anything.

FaustavianApr 14, 20177 votes

I like it at 22 hours to be honest, it allows me to do it at the same time every day, earlier if i really want to. Not to mention, it gets rid of the whole if you dont do it exactly on time, you need to wait about 25 hours instead.

EDIT: forgot to mention Timezones

WimbledofyApr 14, 20173 votes

if it resets at midnight it also allows you to do it at the same time every day.

ShinjusukeApr 14, 20174 votes

Then this change would have zero effect on you:

If you win at the same time every day, switching to a daily reset time has np impact.

The only people this has a negative impact on are the imaginary ones who win at the 22 hour mark every day, who would lose one FWD bonus every 11 days (note: this is INCREDIBLY unlikely and would only be significantly less than 1% of the playerbase IF they even exist at all)

FaustavianApr 15, 20172 votes

They wouldn't lose FWD, they'd be getting them earlier, since it has no correlation to time other than "22 hours from now, you can get it again" which literally SAVES time.

OurLestradeApr 14, 20174 votes

How about time zones?

The DreamwalkerApr 14, 20172 votes

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How about time zones?

Well, I am sure they could configure it a player's specific time zone.

Votable JesterApr 14, 20176 votes

Or just set it to the time zone of where the server is located or something like that.

SoryInAdvanceApr 14, 20171 votes

I'm not sure they have that specific information since its all located in the central server in chicago for NA.

Skins ProjectApr 15, 20171 votes

Wouldn't matter much. If you play the same time every day (Approx) your still getting the reset. If you play on the time, that might be a bit more complicated though, but still no major problems.

SadKillApr 14, 20173 votes

If I'm not mistaken the win of the day resets every 23 hours, not 24 and depends on when you got the win of the day. It's a fairly nice system that let's you get win of the day more on your schedule for the most part. In the current system it also prevents people from missing a day. Say I play a game and I go 1 minute over midnight, I would lose that day. Not much of a problem scenario if it resets at midnight, but is it global reset? does it reset at noon over in korea or such (I don't know cross world time zones).

Either way, if it resets at midnight you're going to be waiting 23/24 hours. I personally like having it reset based on when I got my last win of the day, which is generally when I get home from work around 5 in the evening. If I play my first game and win around 6 it'll be available at 5 the next day, and that's nice.

In my mind both systems work, both systems have some pros and cons, it's just preference.

FilDaFunkApr 14, 20171 votes

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If I'm not mistaken the win of the day resets every 23 hours, not 24 and depends on when you got the win of the day.

22 Hours after game won.

SteelflameApr 15, 20173 votes

There are abuse cases why a set time isn't a thing, where you just log in before the reset, play 2-3 games, reset happens, 2-3 games, have 2 first wins of the day in a few hours.

That is the gist of why a recharge is used and not a fixed reset, although I do think the recharge could be more generous, like 18 hours, not 22.

Arsenic SulfurApr 15, 20172 votes

That isn't an abuse case just getting the 2 bonuses faster. It'd be no different if the player got it later. Infact it's riskier for the player to do that because lose streaks are very much a thing.

SteelflameApr 15, 20171 votes

It isn't about what I agree with, it's about how people try to game it. And people DO game that stuff, as many other games with once a day rewards shows, and infact often results in a lower active playerbase as people specifically time themselves around playing only when they can get the maximum reward and not playing during the downtime at all. Log in (Or first win, in this case) rewards per day can massively backfire, and almost always do, when set to a timer that resets at a fixed time. At the very least League doesn't have a ramping system, like the atrocities of the Warframe login rewards (Hint, a horrid system that I know has lost them many players when they finally missed a log in for any reason and go "You know what. I've only been playing to keep that chain. Chain broken, IDGAF anymore."

AeszarckApr 14, 20172 votes

I like the way League of Legends does it currently because you can never really miss a day, you can just lose out on time. While that time lost will eventually add up to a lost day, you can also make up for that lost time because the FWOTD resets every twenty-two hours instead of every twenty-four hours. If this suggestion were to be implemented, then if you start a match at 11:41 and don't manage to finish it before the end of the day, you just lost out on that reward, and you can't compensate for that like you can with the current system.

Another thing that I think Riot wants to avoid doing is encouraging players to play at a specific time. With the flexible FWOTD system, anyone can play whenever, but with a fixed FWOTD system, there might be a very high amount of players at a specific time (probably when the cycle resets) and less players at other times during the day. Thus, there would likely be a pretty large change in queue times for different times of the day.

EDIT: If you disagree, then comment. Downvotes are used to hide posts that do not promote meaningful discussion.

Sugar MommaApr 15, 20172 votes

Problem is, midnight is different for different people. How would the game determine what midnight is for you?

If it's by your computer clock, you could just change it.

Skins ProjectApr 15, 20171 votes

If you play at the same time every day it's going to have reset. 24 hours passed so somewhere in there midnight passed.

PaladinNOApr 15, 20172 votes

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ElikainApr 14, 20171 votes

Fine by me.

TheEdgeOfDestinyApr 14, 20171 votes

It's ok. It's 22 hours actually so that time won't shift forward.

I think there is a reason why they didn't make reset @ midnight. Probably it has smth to do with people playing at different time. I cannot wrap my head around this fully though.

junkgummybumApr 15, 20171 votes

Whenever I want to roll back my daily ip cdr, I just queue vs bots exactly 21:45.00 post daily win. So I disagree because that'll deny me bonus free daily ip for every 12 daily ip

DeathgonApr 15, 20171 votes

f this all

Thrakaz0gApr 15, 20171 votes

This would actually help me a lot. On the weekends I tend to play late at night (10 to midnight let's say) and during the week I play much earlier and get to sleep earlier as well.

ThatHaleStateApr 15, 20171 votes

It's 22 hours, but i get your point lol

Spartan11710Apr 15, 20171 votes

Skins ProjectApr 15, 20171 votes

Haro Dreamwalker san!

Inquisitor KaneApr 15, 20171 votes

IT SHOULD RESET EVERY 24H AT THE SPECIFIC TIME. 22 HOURS RESET TIMER SUCKS, HERE'S WHY:

The sole problem is, that with 22h reset timer it is very inconsistent to get the bonus. If you have moving time table you can't break, you are losing bonus wins - or have to break up your timetable.

Example: _You have time to play League on Monday betwen 18:00 - 20:00. You get your bonus around 19:00 so on Tuesday your bonus resets at 17:00. But what if you can play only between 14:00 - 18:00? Yes, you are screwed, mate. _

With fixed reset at certain hour, you can get your bonus at any day, at any time convenient to you - the player. And since 1st win of the day is something for players.... why not fixing it?

GigaPubeApr 15, 20171 votes

no this doesn't make sense and no i actually dont agree. like i dont even work for riot and i just want more IP no matter what, but this is just a horrible idea

1st of all you dont even wait 24 hours, you only have to wait 22 hours. which is actually a huge difference. i wouldnt even ask you or anyone to have done research for this, but the fact you already dont even know makes it all the more embarrassing. like what were you thinking dude.... some people on this planet actually do play after 8:30pm, when your parents force you to sleep so you can wake up for school tomorrow. so not only does everyone get more IP from riots 22 hour system already, but the people who would play around midnight wouldnt get screwed over an entire days worth of IP because of this close-minded suggestion when they get into a game a few minutes too late

The DreamwalkerApr 15, 20171 votes

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no this doesn't make sense and no i actually dont agree. like i dont even work for riot and i just want more IP no matter what, but this is just a horrible idea

160 upvotes says otherwise...

GigaPubeApr 16, 20171 votes

you'll get nowhere in life being coddled with attention. prove me and your parents wrong by learning to think for yourself

The DreamwalkerApr 16, 20171 votes

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You'll get nowhere in life being coddled with attention. Prove me and your parents wrong by learning to think for yourself**.**

Okay? Because you know my parents, sure let's go with that. Also, I will prove nothing to someone of your personality type. Also, anyone and everyone is capable of thinking for themselves. If I couldn't think for myself, I wouldn't have responded to you or have created this post in the first place.

Additionally, people who want to be coddled with attention are capable of thinking for themselves. If someone wants that attention, they have to think about how to get that attention. I agree that people like don't get very far in the real world. I'm not saying I am one of those people. In fact, I am the person who wants attention off of them, but I cannot help that my post was popular. I only reply to people who I feel are attacking my beliefs, and then try my best to defend them. Also, if you knew half of my accomplishments in the real world, you'd feel silly.

DemoGuideApr 15, 20171 votes

I would rather have 22 hour system, thanks.

Azirsec PoggersApr 15, 20171 votes

yes totally i hate it my mom doesn't let me lay in the morning so i have to play at night and some times i'm away so i miss the bonus

RygorDotaApr 15, 20171 votes

First win of the day does help out a lot with building up IP so it could help newer players get champions faster if the first win of the day happens more often. I think it is a great idea :)

I WatchApr 15, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Dreamwalker,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=03LErs3s,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-04-14T14:58:16.776+0000)

"Title. Basically, we shouldn't have to wait another DAY to get the bonus, it should reset at the end of the DAY, making it another DAY. Makes sense imo. Anyone agree?"

Go see a psychiatrist.

Dr PoroApr 15, 20171 votes

I made a couple of threads suggesting this a few years ago. One reached 515 upvotes https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/FnWXEvjW-petition-make-first-win-of-the-day-daily . Still, Riot didn't care but maybe they now will (we have baker pantheon after all).

The DreamwalkerApr 15, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Dr Poro,realm=EUW,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=03LErs3s,comment-id=001a,timestamp=2017-04-15T19:14:05.803+0000)

I made a couple of threads suggesting this a few years ago. One reached 515 upvotes https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/FnWXEvjW-petition-make-first-win-of-the-day-daily . Still, Riot didn't care but maybe they now will (we have baker pantheon after all).

Hi. I actually did find yours when I was investigating the whole timer on the FWOTD bonus.

SheeporothApr 15, 20171 votes

First win of the day IP counts for about 2 games; helping tremendously with buying stuff. Already, it takes legit weeks/months to get a champion. Change is very much needed