Twitch has a higher win rate Vayne in literally every division

Cloud273··1 votes·952 views

So please stop b*tching about Vayne. I am by no means a fan of Vayne, but there are much worse things in this game. Twitch has better stealth/camo (whatever the hell it's called now). It lasts longer, and he has access to it more often. He has better aoe, better range, and he has better cc. Vayne can cc one person if and ONLY if they're near a wall or some other terrain. Twitch can cc your entire team.

I will admit they have a lot in common. They both have true damage, they both have stealth, and they both gain ms boosts when moving toward enemy champions. But Twitch's kit is superior in literally every possible way. Vayne will at most burst one person, and then she's screwed. Because in order to burst that person she literally needs to dive your backline, putting herself at a HUGE risk. Twitch will burst your entire team, and he doesn't need to put himself in a dangerous spot to do it.

These win rates are for platinum, but you can look at the numbers for any division. In most of them Twitch is the best adc.

http://na.op.gg/statistics/champion/

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oSEXYPLATYPUSo3 votes

or how bout people just stop bitching all together ?

JackMcSnipeyz3 votes

More cc? You comparing a weak slow to a full on stun? The 6 true damage tick to a % health true damage burst? Vayne is a much better duelist while twitch is a better teamfighter, also twitch doesnt burst squishies with 2 items

Requiemsfire1 votes

Vayne is played way more than Twitch Btw.

CerealBoxOfDoom1 votes

I don't think you understand how winrates work

...or that this doesn't mean there's no issue with vayne

In fact what if twitch is the only reason vayne doesn't have a 70% winrate??? Even if he isn't picked threat remains. there's a lot more thought to put into that, your data doesn't go very deep

Cloud2732 votes

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I don't think you understand how winrates work

...or that this doesn't mean there's no issue with vayne

In fact what if twitch is the only reason vayne doesn't have a 70% winrate??? Even if he isn't picked threat remains. there's a lot more thought to put into that, your data doesn't go very deep

Really? At least I've actually given some data. You haven't given anything.

CerealBoxOfDoom1 votes

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Really? At least I've actually given some data. You haven't given anything.

better to give no data than misleading conclusions to incomplete data.

I also gave you an example of why your data was incomplete, this is a form of processed data known as information

Cloud2731 votes

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better to give no data than misleading conclusions to incomplete data.

I also gave you an example of why your data was incomplete, this is a form of processed data known as information

Unfortunately we don't have access to that kind of complex data. I can only go off the numbers that are available to me. Even if your point about Twitch being a counter to Vayne is true, Vayne probably isn't the only adc he gets played into. Again, I don't know because I don't have that kind of data. We can theorycraft all day but at the end of the day all it is is theorycrafting and nothing else.

CerealBoxOfDoom1 votes

You could also speak based off knowledge or experience or whatever. Or prove that it ISNT this.

As vaynes playrate rises twitches winrate rises. Can't say why but this is true today.

But then ppl also said this would happen when item 3814 came out.

If you don't have access to the infor get as close as you can, but you gotta do better than this. I suggest going to league of graphs or looking for graphs on some other site that's more up to date. Find something that suggests when and what correlates with vaynes rises and falls.

Shuyin1781 votes

Twitch already has nerfs on the PBE (more added today), it's Vayne's turn to get more than a small slap on the wrist.

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