When are we fixing the jungle?

Eedat·Apr 3, 2017·2 votes·626 views

When will more than 5-6 champions actually be able to effectively clear the current jungle? Why do the top 5 most played junglers have a combined pick rate of 95%? When are we fixing the meaningless damage you did to the jungle with the season 7 jungle changes that you made for absolutely no reason?

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RenownedWheat42Apr 3, 20171 votes

Amumu Camille Diana DrMundo Ekko Elise Evelynn Galio Gragas Graves Hecarim Irelia Ivern JarvanIV Jax Kayle Khazix Kindred LeeSin Malzahar Maokai MasterYi Nasus Nautilus Nidalee Nocturne Nunu Olaf Pantheon Poppy Rammus RekSai Rengar Riven Rumble Sejuani Shaco Shen Shyvana Sion Skarner Talon Tryndamere TwistedFate Udyr Volibear Warwick XinZhao Zac

Seen all these work this season. Obviously some work better in the first few clears than others, but all of em have worked and that looks like a hell of a lot more than 5-6. Won't say anything about jungle pick rates 'cuz I haven't checked any of that, though.

I also like S7 jungle quite a bit, myself.

A Vel Koz MainApr 3, 20172 votes

Seeing something work, and something work well are different. Only a select few of those champions are actually decent to have on your team no matter the composition your team has. Those would be Lee Sin, Amumu, Camille, Irelia, Ekko, Tryndamere and Warwick/Xin/Yi other than amumu you should notice the problem.

ALL OF THESE CURRENTLY TOO STRONG CHAMPIONS BENEFIT FROM ON HIT OP KITS. They get damage or sustain, sometimes both at once for just hitting things. That is bs, on top of having on hit garbage they then get active damage abilities on top of on hit stats.

Mig89Apr 3, 20171 votes

Ive seen a little over half those in my Low Elo games and it seems fine to me. There are always the busted few but this season seems more divers than last imo

Kuronii LumiiraApr 3, 20171 votes

Yeah, no. Elise's early clear is much weaker than it used to be, and she still suffers most on Raptors, as Hecarim does. Not only that, but you can't count Ivern, since he doesn't have to worry about clear speed or damage in the jungle aside from invades. Add to that the fact that quite a few champions you mentioned aren't really junglers: Camille, Mundo, Galio, Irelia, Malz, Nasus, Pantheon, Poppy, Riven, Rumble, Shen, Talon, and Twisted Fate.

Of those left, Volibear, Amumu, Kayle, Nautilus, Nunu, Skarner, Elise, Hecarim, and Jarvan all have slow clear speeds, and their first clear leaves them with mid-to-low health. That's at the point where they should be moving in for a gank if they haven't already, and even a Buff+1 small clear can take too long. Champions like Graves, Shaco, Lee Sin, Evelynn, or Vi will already have ganked by the time those junglers finish with a routine clear.