Can we fix Xin?

Yenn·Jul 18, 2015·6 votes·552 views

I'd rather play against Shyvana every game than a single Xin jungle. The amount of damage, CC, and survivability he has is too much.

5 Comments

TehNACHOJul 19, 20151 votes

Single target Disengage CC, or plainly just Single target He's a fighter

To be frank, these three attributes are really only relevant if you either a) have terrible positioning in a team fight or b) find yourself in a 1v1 against him. Neither of these traits are really gigantic game breakers in a team based game.

CasterGilgameshJul 19, 20152 votes

i two vs one xin i was Braum and my alie was Jax no matter how many times we stunned him or did anything to him he healed up and just killed us all from item 3931 item 3065 and item 3153 he was unkillable

TehNACHOJul 19, 20151 votes

Checked out your game.

Bro, he was fed. He outpaced your Jax in almost all stages in the game and because he's the same class as Jax (both are considered Raid Bosses given their builds) being a whole 1K gold ahead really early on in the game crushed Jax's chances of fighting him head on ever. Now to be fair, Braum should've had enough CC to make a difference (I'm not going to acknowledge Braum's defensive stats for hopefully obvious reasons) but given that you were fighting a raid boss that already was snowballing out of control, you have to respect that they are guaranteed to be much stronger than you.

I make a big deal that he is fed because quite frankly, almost every champion will start snowballing the shit out of a game when sufficiently fed.

Baby GhoulJul 19, 20151 votes

I actually never had a problem with Xin Zhao, but with the popularity of champions like Warwick Shyvana and Kayle on the rise because of Sated Devourer, lanes get neglected early game more often than not.

Meanwhile Xin puts pressure on every lane almost from the start, and sometimes he puts pressure on the enemy jungler themselves. He just gets things rolling so quickly because a lot of the popular jungler picks now are a race against time instead of a more consistent pace throughout the game. They have weak early games, and stupidly strong late games. Xin puts a pretty nice wrench into that, and I'm always thankful when I get one on my team because he makes the laning phase that much smoother with his ganks.

TaredomJul 19, 20151 votes

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I actually never had a problem with Xin Zhao, but with the popularity of champions like and on the rise because of Sated Devourer, lanes get neglected early game more often than not.

Meanwhile Xin puts pressure on every lane almost from the start, and sometimes he puts pressure on the enemy jungler themselves. He just gets things rolling so quickly because a lot of the popular jungler picks now are a race against time instead of a more consistent pace throughout the game. They have weak early games, and stupidly strong late games. Xin puts a pretty nice wrench into that, and I'm always thankful when I get one on my team because he makes the laning phase that much smoother with his ganks.

Pretty much this, either you can go for the build mentioned about and be a sustain tank with a decent bit of damage (god forbid you cc him for a bit) or you take advantage of what his kit actually does and build warrior.

Literally just faced a xin (team builder) as AP Udyr and killed his early game so hard that he was afraid to farm his own jungle (met him at his red, killed him, met him at his blue, chased him off but our mid got the kill) If you can maintain a decent early game against him where you try to keep him in line, he's useless. If he builds devourer, take advantage of it, he won't have a power spike and you can out duel him as most junglers.