Every support item should grant bonus gold on takedowns

Big Lincoln··28 votes·1,116 views

after their quest is completed

It makes no sense to me that the most passive of the 3 item 3301 is the only one that has this effect. It should be unified across all items to give you the same bonus gold for kill and assist; this would be a great step to shortening the difference in gold gain between the items. Or we could just remove it from Coin, but it's forbidden to ask for support nerfs

33 Comments

DunkinNoobs6 votes

Bot lane doesn't need to be any more snowbally, thank you very much.

Big Lincoln6 votes

like i said we can remove the takedown gold from coin instead, I only really care about unifying them better and the passive item giving more gold is BS

Faceroll Tactics2 votes

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Bot lane doesn't need to be any more meta restricted, thank you very much.

FTFY

DunkinNoobs2 votes

Yes, let's make kill lane supports like Brand meta again. Fantastic idea.

Faceroll Tactics2 votes

You're thinking too narrow.

For 7 seasons ranged AD champs and low income supports have been the meta. This is why bot lane is never balanced. Top lane has had assassins, bruisers, fighters, mages, adcs even. Mid has had mages, assassins, even picks like cho gath being a tank mid. Jungle has fighters, assassins, carries, mages, tanks... but bot lane is always the same. If you want bot to be balanced you should drift from the adc support philosophy and not rage so hard when mordekaiser shows up in it.

But that's just my opinion built off years of the gamestate

DunkinNoobs1 votes

I love bot lane Morde and think it's really strong even in bot lanes current incarnation.

Siegfriedx11 votes

Don't blame bot lane for the bs that adcs can pull out with items and stuff.

DunkinNoobs1 votes

Supports are more OP than adcs are right now. There's a reason there's like 6 supp mains in the top 15 of challenger right now.

CamilleRule345 votes

Hey man as a support main, I love money. But really I'm not gonna flip my shit if they strip the passive gold from coin and think of a new way to give supports gold that isnt last hitting or harassing. Maybe healing? Heal your adc, get some money. Its like an HMO

chipndip15 votes

Cheapest and most passive of 3 support items rakes in the most gold by a long shot. Gotta hand it to Riot for nerfing the mana regen before dealing with the insane gold generation.

MysterQ1 votes

I dont see why everyone thinks coin is now the most broken thing.

But yes give more gold on other sipprt items. Ill take it.

Big Lincoln2 votes

coin lets you get a ton more gold than the other items so anyone who doesn't NEED say targon's to survive lane is better off taking Coin to get their items sooner

MysterQ1 votes

Right, but just complaining bout coin is different from aaying the others are weak.

You are still support. You are still going to likely have less gold and less xp than most people in the game. Now people are saying coin gives you equivalent gold to adc, come on now.

Big Lincoln1 votes

well it depends on how fed/farmed they are, but I can get equivalent gold to a top lane or jungler on a good game with Coin

part of why this is is just because targon/spellthief aren't usually going to be proc'd off cooldown, because your team will execute minions before you get a chance to clear them after lane ends and you can't always hit people with your stuff, like when roaming etc

Coin requires 0 effort to just drop into a lane and get some gold for sitting near minions, and you also get the bonus for takedowns

Partholonian1 votes

Coin doesn't give gold for just sitting near minions anymore, it was reworked like half a season ago. Now you have to move your squishy butt out into the open to pick up the gold (like Thresh, but usually with worse self-peel). Hope you have good vision.

If your opponents don't pay any attention to punishing you for grabbing gold, then you can get a decent amount. If they do, you can feed.

chipndip11 votes

Depends on how your adc did, but you can out cash your adc with coin.

Penns1 votes

since when does coin give gold for kills and assists tho o hehe

Big Lincoln1 votes

item 3301 idk why it's not in the boards tooltip but I know that if you kill/assist you get both gold and the % mana restore

Big Lincoln1 votes

my mistake, it's only after you complete the quest

Penns1 votes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLikP6BDH5w&feature=youtu.be&t=4s

ive been spamming dat rakan with coin and i didnt notice it lel

Jerry SeinfeId1 votes

what? doesn't it just give you an earlier skill point? Haven't bought that thing anymore since the ward/sup item merge was possible.

Like if you build the item sure i can understand but i don't see the point of the earlier skill point. Especially compared to relic shield's shield. Such a pain to lasthit with as rakan tho.

DarkRitual2 votes

It was changed a patch or two ago. No longer gives the skill elixir. Now has a Janna passive type movespeed buff. The gold income on takedowns is just a part of the gold gen on it.

Jerry SeinfeId1 votes

I mean this doesn't seem too crazy and i kinda understand why it does it.

But it's just stupid. It's not like relic shield suddenly works on assissts when you upgrade it (if only it did, i might actually be allowed to proc it).

FilDaFunk1 votes

Maybe increase assist gold ratio.

DemainaNyx1 votes

If you tie the bonus assist gold ratio to owning a support item and/or sightstone, that might work.

AirKingNeo1 votes

Considering assist gold and coin need to be nerfed, so this would be fine if those were nerfed.

Only concern is Ivern and other champions taking Locket and Knight's Vow, which also need nerfs.

pixelvoxel1 votes

increase the gold income on the other items

remove spellthief last hitting penalty when you're alone

pls

Starboyˇ1 votes

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increase the gold income on the other items

remove spellthief last hitting penalty when you're alone

pls

The reason that spell thief has a last hitting penalty if ur alone is because if any AP mid laner built it it would be broken

pixelvoxel1 votes

Oh. Right, I forgot other people can buy items.

Starboyˇ1 votes

The whole point of coin is to give gold because it doesn't give you much else. Also it's not like you just get free gold. you have to walk up to the dead minions which can easily be punished if your opponents don't suck

FilDaFunk1 votes

Pickup range is huge. Mana gain should be toned down, though, that's why it's a better pick than STE.

Siegfriedx11 votes

I would support this change.

Siegfriedx11 votes

Or at least targon!

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